[cdi-dev] Fw: Re: CDI 1.1

Peter Muir pmuir at redhat.com
Wed Apr 27 08:11:06 EDT 2011 

Personally I find that behaviour (ala the JSF eg mailing list really annoying ;-)

On 27 Apr 2011, at 13:10, Peter Muir wrote:

> Yes, but why? This is not normal for a mailing list...
> 
> On 27 Apr 2011, at 13:08, Mark Struberg wrote:
> 
>> btw, can the mailing daemon be configured to automatically contain the list as mail-to? :)
>> 
>> LieGrue,
>> strub
>> 
>> --- On Wed, 4/27/11, Mark Struberg <struberg at yahoo.de> wrote:
>> 
>>> From: Mark Struberg <struberg at yahoo.de>
>>> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] CDI 1.1
>>> To: "Peter Muir" <pmuir at redhat.com>
>>> Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 12:06 PM
>>> is fine with me.
>>> 
>>> I just found it a good idea to encourage people to use the
>>> voting feature of jira. People are not using it often since
>>> it is most times ignored. If the votes actually have a real
>>> impact, then people will use it more often - which would in
>>> turn provide a good feedback for the EG.
>>> 
>>> LieGrue,
>>> strub
>>> 
>>> --- On Wed, 4/27/11, Peter Muir <pmuir at redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> From: Peter Muir <pmuir at redhat.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] CDI 1.1
>>>> To: "Mark Struberg" <struberg at yahoo.de>
>>>> Cc: "cdi-dev" <cdi-dev at lists.jboss.org>
>>>> Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 12:01 PM
>>>> I see. We can consider doing
>>>> something like this - I guess what I have asked people
>>> to do
>>>> initially is equivalent to the feasibility check. We
>>> can
>>>> open it up to the community for after the kick off con
>>> call
>>>> and get their feedback on whether we are going in the
>>> right
>>>> direction. How does that sound?
>>>> 
>>>> On 27 Apr 2011, at 12:57, Mark Struberg wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> The EG and extended EG first worked through all
>>> the
>>>> Jira issues and did some documentation and
>>> feasibility
>>>> checks. Before finishing the spec he called for
>>> feedback in
>>>> the community basically asking them to vote for the
>>> jira
>>>> issues (directly in jira) they see as most important
>>> to get
>>>> fixed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://weblogs.java.net/blog/edburns/archive/2011/04/25/vote-your-top-five-jsf-issues-results?force=703
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://java.net/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?requestId=10523
>>>>> 
>>>>> Actually your own uidata issue comes out on top
>>> ;)
>>>>> 
>>>>> LieGrue,
>>>>> strub
>>>>> 
>>>>> --- On Wed, 4/27/11, Peter Muir <pmuir at redhat.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Peter Muir <pmuir at redhat.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] CDI 1.1
>>>>>> To: "Mark Struberg" <struberg at yahoo.de>
>>>>>> Cc: "cdi-dev" <cdi-dev at lists.jboss.org>
>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 11:49 AM
>>>>>> Can you briefly explain the system he
>>>>>> used?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 27 Apr 2011, at 12:47, Mark Struberg
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Congratulations Pete!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What do you think about a public voting
>>> as Ed
>>>> did with
>>>>>> JSF-2.2?
>>>>>>> Could give some good feedback.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> LieGrue,
>>>>>>> strub
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --- On Wed, 4/27/11, Peter Muir <pmuir at redhat.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From: Peter Muir <pmuir at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: [cdi-dev] CDI 1.1
>>>>>>>> To: "cdi-dev" <cdi-dev at lists.jboss.org>
>>>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011,
>>> 11:25 AM
>>>>>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Welcome to the CDI 1.1 expert group.
>>> I've
>>>> started
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> collect some resources at https://github.com/pmuir/cdi/wiki. Please take some
>>>>>>>> time to read through them.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I would like everyone to work their
>>> way
>>>> through
>>>>>> the various
>>>>>>>> lists of issues in JIRA https://github.com/pmuir/cdi/wiki/CDI-1.1-issues and
>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>> four things:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> * If you are aware of an issue that
>>> is
>>>> not
>>>>>> recorded, please
>>>>>>>> create one
>>>>>>>> * If you think an issue on the TBC
>>> list
>>>> should be
>>>>>> addressed
>>>>>>>> in CDI 1.1 then please make a note
>>> of
>>>> this, and
>>>>>> prepare an
>>>>>>>> email to this list explaining why
>>> you
>>>> think the
>>>>>> issue should
>>>>>>>> be included. Please restrict yourself
>>> to
>>>> three
>>>>>> such issues.
>>>>>>>> * If you think an issue on the
>>> proposed
>>>> list
>>>>>> shouldn't be
>>>>>>>> addressed then please make a note of
>>> this,
>>>> and
>>>>>> prepare an
>>>>>>>> email to this list explaining why
>>> you
>>>> think the
>>>>>> issue
>>>>>>>> shouldn't be included. Please
>>> restrict
>>>> yourself to
>>>>>> three
>>>>>>>> such issues.
>>>>>>>> * Write a note to the list indicating
>>> what
>>>> issues
>>>>>> you are
>>>>>>>> going to take a lead on. For major
>>> issues,
>>>> prepare
>>>>>> a 2
>>>>>>>> minute summary for the concall so
>>> that you
>>>> can
>>>>>> brief people
>>>>>>>> on the issue.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The (soft) deadline for this exercise
>>> is
>>>> Wednesday
>>>>>> 11th
>>>>>>>> May. Of course, we can continue to
>>> debate
>>>> the
>>>>>> merits of
>>>>>>>> issues after this, but to make things
>>> run
>>>> smoothly
>>>>>> it will
>>>>>>>> help a lot if we can get this done
>>>> quickly!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I propose we have conference call on
>>>> Thursday 12th
>>>>>> May to
>>>>>>>> kick off, overview the main issues
>>> facing
>>>> us and
>>>>>> run through
>>>>>>>> who will take what issues. Here is
>>> my
>>>> proposed
>>>>>> slot - http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CDI+Kick+off+concall&iso=20110512T14&p1=90&ah=1
>>>>>>>> - it's difficult to find something
>>>> suitable for
>>>>>> everyone,
>>>>>>>> but this does allow both people in
>>>> Australia (late
>>>>>> night)
>>>>>>>> and the US West Coast (our two
>>> extremes)
>>>> to
>>>>>> particpate.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Any comments or suggestions welcome,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Pete
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
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