[cdi-dev] Clarify scopes and serialization

[Werner Keil]

Mark might know in more detail, he brought it up.

As both EC and EE (6-8) JSR Member I certainly have a lot to do with this,
but neither is responsible for details of product certification;-)

Werner


On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau at gmail.com>
wrote:

> servlet spec requirement is only for distributed systems AFAIK == not
> required in most of instances.
> tomee supports both and is aligned on tomcat for all tomee flavors and
> is serialization-less in openejb flavors
>
> That said this is not a certification question but a usage question
>
>
> Romain Manni-Bucau
> @rmannibucau
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>
> 2015-02-03 10:59 GMT+01:00 Werner Keil <werner.keil at gmail.com>:
> > What about TomEE?
> > After all it's Java EE 6 certified:
> >
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javaee/overview/compatibility-jsp-136984.html
> >
> > So as Mark mentioned briefly, there is a requirement by the Servlet
> spec, so
> > I assume it is either always on or at least on by default (otherwise a
> TomEE
> > "tweaked" like that would no longer be Java EE compliant;-)
> >
> > Tomcat itself was never certified.
> >
> > Werner
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:39 AM, <cdi-dev-request at lists.jboss.org> wrote:
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> >>    3. Re: Clarify scopes and serialization (Mark Struberg)
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> >> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 16:50:44 +0100
> >> From: Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] Clarify scopes and serialization
> >> To: Mark Struberg <struberg at yahoo.de>
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> >>
> >> in a standard tomcat yes but not in most of embedded ones...and that's
> >> not the point anyway
> >>
> >>
> >> Romain Manni-Bucau
> >> @rmannibucau
> >> http://www.tomitribe.com
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> >> https://github.com/rmannibucau
> >>
> >>
> >> 2015-02-02 16:50 GMT+01:00 Mark Struberg <struberg at yahoo.de>:
> >> > but you HAVE to manually switch it off. By _default_ the serialization
> >> > is on...
> >> >
> >> > LieGrue,
> >> > strub
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> On Monday, 2 February 2015, 16:42, Romain Manni-Bucau
> >> >> <rmannibucau at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > @Mark: that's not true. 1) you can switch it off + I mainly spoke
> of
> >> >> embedded case where it is true in 80% of cases
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Romain Manni-Bucau
> >> >> @rmannibucau
> >> >> http://www.tomitribe.com
> >> >> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com
> >> >> https://github.com/rmannibucau
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 2015-02-02 16:38 GMT+01:00 Mark Struberg <struberg at yahoo.de>:
> >> >>>  Romain, that's not true. Tomcat by default ALWAYS serializes the
> >> >> session at shutdown! Even if you don't have a cluster set up. This is
> >> >> also
> >> >> required by the Servlets spec...
> >> >>>
> >> >>>  LieGrue,
> >> >>>  strub
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
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