[cdi-dev] F2F city and date choice

Werner Keil werner.keil at gmail.com
Thu May 21 09:28:40 EDT 2015


As London is not in the list, I guess the F2F would take place either
before or after DevoXX UK, but not then.

I voted on the two cities closest to where I expect to be for the next few
months. With enough time and notice, I guess I could also get to the other
two if selected in the end (or another city, as long as it's not too far;-)

Werner

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>    4. [JBoss JIRA] (CDI-10) Add ability to access a bean instance
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>    5. [JBoss JIRA] (CDI-527) allow proxying of classes with
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 13:32:42 -0400
> From: JJ Snyder <j.j.snyder at oracle.com>
> Subject: [cdi-dev] Spring beans.xml
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> Does anyone know how to tell Spring to use a different file and not
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> Thanks,
> JJ
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> Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 22:18:59 -0700
> From: Mark Struberg <struberg at yahoo.de>
> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] F2F city and date choice
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> From: Antoine Sabot-Durand <antoine at sabot-durand.net>
> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] F2F city and date choice
> To: Mark Struberg <struberg at yahoo.de>,  "cdi-dev at lists.jboss.org"
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> Done,
>
> Thorben and Mark P.. If you want to add a second choice you can do too. But
> let's try to keep it 2.
>
> Antoine
> Le jeu. 21 mai 2015 ? 07:19, Mark Struberg <struberg at yahoo.de> a ?crit :
>
> > Can you allow multi options? Would like to check Brno and Munich.
> >
> > Lg,
> > Strub
> >
> >
> > Gesendet von Yahoo Mail f?r iPad <https://yho.com/footer0>
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> > Um 20.05.2015 17:31:56 schrieb Antoine Sabot-Durand<'
> > antoine at sabot-durand.net'>:
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > As we decided yesterday, I created a Doodle to choose the city of the
> > meeting. Keep in mind that this vote is non binding ;) as there are other
> > parameters on the Red Hat side.
> > Please vote here:
> >
> > http://doodle.com/v6kn89dfr6vev4as
> >
> >
> > Antoine Sabot-Durand
> > ???????????????
> > Twitter : @antoine_sd
> > CDI co-spec lead & eco-system development
> > Agorava tech lead
> >
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> From: "Martin Kouba (JIRA)" <issues at jboss.org>
> Subject: [cdi-dev] [JBoss JIRA] (CDI-10) Add ability to access a bean
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> Martin Kouba reopened CDI-10:
> -----------------------------
>
>
> I believe this issue is valid and should be reopened. Recently, we've run
> into problems with two integration scenarios where having this portable way
> to detect a client proxy and access the bean instance would allow to
> implement portable "workarounds".
>
> h3. Bean Validation
>
> The spec does not forbid the *field access strategy* to be used for
> normal-scoped CDI beans. However, this doesn't work because injectable
> references for normal-scoped beans are client proxies and not direct
> references to contextual instances. See also
> https://forum.hibernate.org/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1039523.
>
> h3. JAX-RS
>
> Weld client proxies lose generic type information which screws up
> injection of generic params into RESTEasy resource methods. See also
> WELD-1539.
>
>
> > Add ability to access a bean instance from a proxy
> > --------------------------------------------------
> >
> >                 Key: CDI-10
> >                 URL: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/CDI-10
> >             Project: CDI Specification Issues
> >          Issue Type: Feature Request
> >          Components: Beans
> >    Affects Versions: 1.0
> >            Reporter: Stuart Douglas
> >
> > There are occasions when it would be useful to access a bean instance
> directly from a proxy. This could be achieved by making all proxies
> assignable to an interface (say BeanProxy) that provides a
> getBeanInstance() method.
> > Client code that needs access to the actual instance can check if the
> object is assignable to the BeanProxy interface and then call
> getBeanInstance() to get the actual instance if required.
> > This is something that is probably more useful to extension writers than
> the end user, but there have already been a few requests on the weld forum
> about this so it is probably worth considering.
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> From: "Jozef Hartinger (JIRA)" <issues at jboss.org>
> Subject: [cdi-dev] [JBoss JIRA] (CDI-527) allow proxying of classes
>         with non-private final methods
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> Jozef Hartinger commented on CDI-527:
> -------------------------------------
>
> {quote}EJB does allow this.{quote}
>
> Can you elaborate on how EJB allows that? Based on the following:
>
> {quote}Only private methods of the bean class and any superclasses except
> java.lang.Object
> may be declared final{quote}
>
> I interpret the EJB spec as explicitly prohibiting this.
>
> > allow proxying of classes with non-private final methods
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >                 Key: CDI-527
> >                 URL: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/CDI-527
> >             Project: CDI Specification Issues
> >          Issue Type: Feature Request
> >          Components: Beans
> >    Affects Versions: 1.2.Final
> >            Reporter: Mark Struberg
> >             Fix For: 2.0 (discussion)
> >
> >
> > Currently we explicitly disallow proxying of classes with non-private
> final methods.
> > EJB _does_ allow this. And there are a few final methods in the JDK and
> other libs. E.g. HashMap#initHashSeedAsNeeded. Currently we cannot have a
> producer method for it.
> > We might rethink our decision and allow it. Probably with an own
> annotation like @AllowProxying which disables this check for certain cases
> (subclass managed-beans or producers).
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> Subject: [cdi-dev] [JBoss JIRA] (CDI-527) allow proxying of classes
>         with non-private final methods
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> Romain Manni-Bucau commented on CDI-527:
> ----------------------------------------
>
> it does
>
> > allow proxying of classes with non-private final methods
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >                 Key: CDI-527
> >                 URL: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/CDI-527
> >             Project: CDI Specification Issues
> >          Issue Type: Feature Request
> >          Components: Beans
> >    Affects Versions: 1.2.Final
> >            Reporter: Mark Struberg
> >             Fix For: 2.0 (discussion)
> >
> >
> > Currently we explicitly disallow proxying of classes with non-private
> final methods.
> > EJB _does_ allow this. And there are a few final methods in the JDK and
> other libs. E.g. HashMap#initHashSeedAsNeeded. Currently we cannot have a
> producer method for it.
> > We might rethink our decision and allow it. Probably with an own
> annotation like @AllowProxying which disables this check for certain cases
> (subclass managed-beans or producers).
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> Mark Struberg commented on CDI-527:
> -----------------------------------
>
> I remember a discussion back then with Marina and Linda. And what what I
> remember the outcome was that it is depending on the term 'Business Method'
> where final is forbidden. And a 'Business Method' in EJBs must be public.
> See EJB spec 4.6.5.
>
> > allow proxying of classes with non-private final methods
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >                 Key: CDI-527
> >                 URL: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/CDI-527
> >             Project: CDI Specification Issues
> >          Issue Type: Feature Request
> >          Components: Beans
> >    Affects Versions: 1.2.Final
> >            Reporter: Mark Struberg
> >             Fix For: 2.0 (discussion)
> >
> >
> > Currently we explicitly disallow proxying of classes with non-private
> final methods.
> > EJB _does_ allow this. And there are a few final methods in the JDK and
> other libs. E.g. HashMap#initHashSeedAsNeeded. Currently we cannot have a
> producer method for it.
> > We might rethink our decision and allow it. Probably with an own
> annotation like @AllowProxying which disables this check for certain cases
> (subclass managed-beans or producers).
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> Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 09:13:20 -0400 (EDT)
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>         with non-private final methods
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> Mark Struberg commented on CDI-527:
> -----------------------------------
>
> [~jharting] I digged a bit deeper. Seems EJB-3.2 introduced this (non
> backward compat) restriction. But *only* for NIVs!
> Previously this restriction was only for 'Business Methods'. Which always
> have been only public methods (this is what is different to CDI).
>
> > allow proxying of classes with non-private final methods
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >                 Key: CDI-527
> >                 URL: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/CDI-527
> >             Project: CDI Specification Issues
> >          Issue Type: Feature Request
> >          Components: Beans
> >    Affects Versions: 1.2.Final
> >            Reporter: Mark Struberg
> >             Fix For: 2.0 (discussion)
> >
> >
> > Currently we explicitly disallow proxying of classes with non-private
> final methods.
> > EJB _does_ allow this. And there are a few final methods in the JDK and
> other libs. E.g. HashMap#initHashSeedAsNeeded. Currently we cannot have a
> producer method for it.
> > We might rethink our decision and allow it. Probably with an own
> annotation like @AllowProxying which disables this check for certain cases
> (subclass managed-beans or producers).
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