[cdi-dev] CDI-30 hangout meeting
Emily Jiang
EMIJIANG at uk.ibm.com
Tue Jun 21 12:22:13 EDT 2016
I can do Friday but not Monday. In the meanwhile, I'll go through the code
changes to add any comments I have.
Many thanks,
Emily
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From: Werner Keil <werner.keil at gmail.com>
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Date: 21/06/2016 16:33
Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] CDI-30 hangout meeting
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As I don't have audio where I am during the day, only Friday (when I leave
earlier in most cases) would work for me.
Werner
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1. Re: CDI-30 hangout meeting (Antoine Sabot-Durand)
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From: Antoine Sabot-Durand <antoine at sabot-durand.net>
Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] CDI-30 hangout meeting
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So choices are Friday 24th 5:00 pm CET (same timeslot than our weekly
meeting) or Monday 27th 5:00pm CET.
I can do both but prefer Monday.
What is your choice?
Antoine
Le mar. 21 juin 2016 ? 16:35, John D. Ament <john.d.ament at gmail.com> a
?crit :
> I just went through the PR one more time. It seems like these are the
> areas of open discussion still:
>
> - The name of the class "ActiveContext" needs to be decided. I'm in
> agreement its a bad name, but switching to past tense doesn't help IMHO.
> - Disassociating the thread model and the context model. This is the
> first change that supports this initiative, so I'm not sure if there are
> any concerns with that change.
> - The fact that contexts have IDs. To me it makes sense, but it seems
> like this is not generally agreed (we need some unique identifier to
make
> sure we can bridge from existing)
>
> John
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 10:27 AM Martin Kouba <mkouba at redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm on PTO until Jun 29 :-(
>>
>> However, we've already discussed this with Antoine so I think my
>> presence is not required.
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> Dne 21.6.2016 v 16:23 John D. Ament napsal(a):
>> > Unfortunately, my schedule's turned south this week and Friday as of
now
>> > is the only day I have open.
>> >
>> > What about next week? Monday?
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 4:42 AM Martin Kouba <mkouba at redhat.com
>> > <mailto:mkouba at redhat.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Any day except for Friday is ok for me.
>> >
>> > I have a feeling that it will be a tough discussion ;-)
>> >
>> > What I particularly dislike:
>> > * ActiveContext.associate(Thread thread)
>> > * the concept of the context id
>> > * scopeType as a method param (I would prefer a specific
>> method/class
>> > for each supported scope)
>> >
>> > Anyway, if you look at Weld Context Management API [1] you'll
find
>> out
>> > that it's pretty powerful but also quite complex. And I don't
>> believe we
>> > will be able to achieve the same level of funcionality with less
>> complex
>> > API (without sacrificing correctness).
>> >
>> > Martin
>> >
>> > [1]
>> >
>>
http://docs.jboss.org/weld/reference/latest/en-US/html/contexts.html#_managing_the_built_in_contexts
>> >
>> >
>> > Dne 21.6.2016 v 09:22 Mark Struberg napsal(a):
>> > > Somewhen this week in the evening (CEST).
>> > > I?ll have a low availability for the following 2 weeks.
>> > >
>> > > LieGrue,
>> > > strub
>> > >
>> > >> Am 20.06.2016 um 16:55 schrieb Antoine Sabot-Durand
>> > <antoine at sabot-durand.net <mailto:antoine at sabot-durand.net>>:
>> > >>
>> > >> Hi all,
>> > >>
>> > >> We launched the idea to organize a meeting regarding John's
>> > proposal regarding CDI-30:
>> > >> https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/291
>> > >>
>> > >> I wasn't available last week (going to a conference) but I am
>> > this week.
>> > >>
>> > >> So what are your favorite slots for this meeting ?
>> > >>
>> > >> Antoine
>> > >> _______________________________________________
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From: "John D. Ament" <john.d.ament at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] CDI-30 hangout meeting
To: Antoine Sabot-Durand <antoine at sabot-durand.net>
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Monday is better for me but I can do both.
On Jun 21, 2016 11:14, "Antoine Sabot-Durand" <antoine at sabot-durand.net>
wrote:
> So choices are Friday 24th 5:00 pm CET (same timeslot than our weekly
> meeting) or Monday 27th 5:00pm CET.
> I can do both but prefer Monday.
>
> What is your choice?
>
> Antoine
>
> Le mar. 21 juin 2016 ? 16:35, John D. Ament <john.d.ament at gmail.com> a
> ?crit :
>
>> I just went through the PR one more time. It seems like these are the
>> areas of open discussion still:
>>
>> - The name of the class "ActiveContext" needs to be decided. I'm in
>> agreement its a bad name, but switching to past tense doesn't help
IMHO.
>> - Disassociating the thread model and the context model. This is the
>> first change that supports this initiative, so I'm not sure if there
are
>> any concerns with that change.
>> - The fact that contexts have IDs. To me it makes sense, but it seems
>> like this is not generally agreed (we need some unique identifier to
make
>> sure we can bridge from existing)
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 10:27 AM Martin Kouba <mkouba at redhat.com>
wrote:
>>
>>> I'm on PTO until Jun 29 :-(
>>>
>>> However, we've already discussed this with Antoine so I think my
>>> presence is not required.
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> Dne 21.6.2016 v 16:23 John D. Ament napsal(a):
>>> > Unfortunately, my schedule's turned south this week and Friday as of
>>> now
>>> > is the only day I have open.
>>> >
>>> > What about next week? Monday?
>>> >
>>> > John
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 4:42 AM Martin Kouba <mkouba at redhat.com
>>> > <mailto:mkouba at redhat.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Any day except for Friday is ok for me.
>>> >
>>> > I have a feeling that it will be a tough discussion ;-)
>>> >
>>> > What I particularly dislike:
>>> > * ActiveContext.associate(Thread thread)
>>> > * the concept of the context id
>>> > * scopeType as a method param (I would prefer a specific
>>> method/class
>>> > for each supported scope)
>>> >
>>> > Anyway, if you look at Weld Context Management API [1] you'll
find
>>> out
>>> > that it's pretty powerful but also quite complex. And I don't
>>> believe we
>>> > will be able to achieve the same level of funcionality with less
>>> complex
>>> > API (without sacrificing correctness).
>>> >
>>> > Martin
>>> >
>>> > [1]
>>> >
>>>
http://docs.jboss.org/weld/reference/latest/en-US/html/contexts.html#_managing_the_built_in_contexts
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Dne 21.6.2016 v 09:22 Mark Struberg napsal(a):
>>> > > Somewhen this week in the evening (CEST).
>>> > > I?ll have a low availability for the following 2 weeks.
>>> > >
>>> > > LieGrue,
>>> > > strub
>>> > >
>>> > >> Am 20.06.2016 um 16:55 schrieb Antoine Sabot-Durand
>>> > <antoine at sabot-durand.net <mailto:antoine at sabot-durand.net>>:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Hi all,
>>> > >>
>>> > >> We launched the idea to organize a meeting regarding John's
>>> > proposal regarding CDI-30:
>>> > >> https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/291
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I wasn't available last week (going to a conference) but I
am
>>> > this week.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> So what are your favorite slots for this meeting ?
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Antoine
>>> > >> _______________________________________________
>>> > >> cdi-dev mailing list
>>> > >> cdi-dev at lists.jboss.org <mailto:cdi-dev at lists.jboss.org>
>>> > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/cdi-dev
>>> > >>
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>>> > >
>>> > >
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>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Martin Kouba
>>> > Software Engineer
>>> > Red Hat, Czech Republic
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>>> --
>>> Martin Kouba
>>> Software Engineer
>>> Red Hat, Czech Republic
>>>
>>
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