[cdi-dev] BeanManager visiblity and container archives

Martin Kouba mkouba at redhat.com
Fri May 20 03:07:09 EDT 2016

Dne 19.5.2016 v 18:47 Christian Kaltepoth napsal(a):
> Hey all,
> I would like to bring up an issue that we ran into while preparing Ozark
> (the MVC 1.0 RI) to be usable as a container module in Glassfish. We
> discussed this issue on Slack and discovered that Mojarra (JSF) and
> Soteria (Security) had similar issues.
> MVC 1.0 defines some extension points that users and 3rd party libraries
> can implement to provide additional functionality. MVC uses CDI for
> looking up all implementations of these extension point interfaces.
> Similar concepts are used in in JSF. Historically JSF uses factories
> which users can implement and register via faces-config.xml. Now for
> Java EE 8 it was decided to prefer CDI to obtain such custom extension
> point implementations (ViewHandler, NavigationHandler, etc). So
> basically JSF uses a similar mechanism to lookup implementations of
> certain interfaces like MVC does.
> As of today Ozark is basically a standard bean archive deployed together
> with the application (in /WEB-INF/lib). Now we want to prepare Ozark to
> be usable as a Glassfish module which is provided by the container.
> As CDI doesn't discover bean archives installed as part of the container,

Well, this is not necessarily true (although it's not required by the 
CDI spec). Basically, it's the responsibility of the integrator to put 
together the "final deployment structure".

> we wanted to basically remove beans.xml and provide an portable
> extension which registers the required annotated types required for
> Ozark. AFAIK Mojarra and Soteria are also doing it this way. Now as soon
> as we do this, things are getting weird.
> There are various ways to get a BeanManager to lookup beans provided by
> the application:
>   * CDI.current().getBeanManager()
>   * @Inject BeanManager
>   * JNDI lookup
> Now if we try to lookup beans deployed with the application (in
> /WEB-INF/classes or in a library in /WEB-INF/lib) we don't get
> consistent results (many thanks to Arjan Tijms for doing all the testing):
>   * In Glassfish we don't see application beans if we use the injected
>     BeanManager. Looking up the BeanManager via JNDI or using
>     CDI.current().getBeanManager() works fine.
>   * In Wildfly CDi.current() doesn't seem to find beans deployed with
>     the application. The injected BeanManager and the one looked up via
>     JNDI works fine.
> So it looks like there are quite some inconsistencies between
> implementations here.
> _To sum it up:_ In Java EE 8 more and more specs rely heavily on CDI.
> And many specs allow the user and 3rd party libraries to implement
> interfaces to extend functionality. But it looks like looking up such
> beans deployed with the application from a container archive isn't
> working in a consistent way.
> I hope my explanation of this complicated topic isn't too bad. I hope
> that we can start some discussion around this.

One important note - BeanManager is NOT a "central management API" for 
CDI. It has a context (or at least few methods must be called in this 
context) - a module or library containing the class into which it was 
injected or the Java EE component from whose JNDI environment namespace 
the BM was obtained.

CDI.current().getBeanManager() is a bit problematic. Esp. from impl. 
point of view.

We should definitely think about this kind of integration issues.

Some of you already
> joined the discussion on Slack and the corresponding pull request, but I
> would prefer to discuss this here. :)
> Christian
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Martin Kouba
Software Engineer
Red Hat, Czech Republic

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