[cdi-dev] Types of Principal object

Werner Keil werner.keil at gmail.com
Wed Apr 26 12:51:50 EDT 2017


If Soteria could handle something like that independent of the underlying
CDI implementation, it would be great. At the moment it does not seem to
require Weld, so unless it redefined the whole "AbstractBean"
functionality, not sure, if we can do it there, but I would certainly love
to see it there if possible.

Kind Regards,
Werner


On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 6:41 PM, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Werner Keil <werner.keil at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Not sure, if I follow you on that?
>>
>> java.security.Principal is not part of the CDI spec at all and only used
>> by a special subclass of
>> AbstractEEBean<T>
>>
>
> I think what Romain intended here is that the build-in Bean<T> for
> Principal is removed from CDI and moved to e.g. the Java EE Security spec.
> In case of Weld that would be org.jboss.weld.bean.builtin.ee.PrincipalBean
>
> (see http://grepcode.com/file/repo1.maven.org/maven2/org.
> jboss.weld.servlet/weld-servlet/2.3.0.Beta3/org/jboss/
> weld/bean/builtin/ee/PrincipalBean.java#PrincipalBean)
>
> The Principal type itself is of course not part of CDI, but part of Java
> SE.
>
> Btw, a CDI extension can easily scan the application for occurrences of
> Injection Points that have a Principal subtype as their target, and then
> dynamically add a specific Bean<T> for that. This is what we do in
> OmniFaces as well.
>
> See
>
> * Collecting types: https://github.com/omnifaces/omnifaces/blob/
> develop/src/main/java/org/omnifaces/cdi/param/ParamExtension.java#L61
>
> * Adding a Bean<T> for each encountered type: https://github.com/
> omnifaces/omnifaces/blob/develop/src/main/java/org/omnifaces/cdi/param/
> ParamExtension.java#L74
>
> Kind regards,
> Arjan Tijms
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> The problem seems the generic T which Java at this point is unable to
>> know about at runtime.
>>
>> It makes no difference, if you had
>> PrincipalBean extends AbstractEEBean<Principal>
>> or a
>> StringBean extends AbstractBuiltInBean<String>
>>
>> Even created a JUnit test in
>>
>> https://github.com/unitsofmeasurement/uom-se/blob/master/
>> src/test/java/tec/uom/se/AbsUnitTest.java
>>
>> Which under Java 8 returns
>>
>> "java.lang.reflect.TypeVariable<D>"
>>
>> No sign of "Length" which is what you'd hoped for (maybe we did not dig
>> deep enough, maybe it won't work until a future Java version?)
>>
>>
>> Werner
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 5:46 PM, <cdi-dev-request at lists.jboss.org> wrote:
>>
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>>> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 17:41:08 +0200
>>> From: Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] Types of Principal object
>>> To: arjan tijms <arjan.tijms at gmail.com>
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>>>
>>> that's why security API needs a more typed API acting as an handler and
>>> not
>>> as a contextual instance, it would allow to unwrap the actual instance
>>> (like most specs do) but at CDI level it should also be possible. If not
>>> we
>>> have this built-in bean never working until you add another not mandatory
>>> spec - for CDI level. In other words either Principal is removed from CDI
>>> spec or it stays but it should be extended to be made usable IMHO.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> 2017-04-26 17:11 GMT+02:00 arjan tijms <arjan.tijms at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > We discussed this very issue in the Security API EG as well. In the
>>> > Security API the actual type *MUST* be retained as per the spec
>>> definition.
>>> >
>>> > The problem in CDI, at least in Weld, is that a proxy is injected. This
>>> > happens via the build-in bean "PrincipalBean extends AbstractEEBean",
>>> where
>>> > AbstractEEBean does:
>>> >
>>> > public abstract class AbstractEEBean<T> extends
>>> > AbstractStaticallyDecorableBuiltInBean<T> {
>>> >
>>> >     private final T proxy;
>>> >
>>> >     protected AbstractEEBean(Class<T> type, Callable<T> callable,
>>> > BeanManagerImpl beanManager) {
>>> >         super(beanManager, type);
>>> >         this.proxy = new ProxyFactory<T>(beanManager.getContextId(),
>>> > type, getTypes(), this).create(new EnterpriseTargetBeanInstance(type,
>>> new
>>> > CallableMethodHandler(callable)));
>>> >     }
>>> >     // ...
>>> > }
>>> >
>>> > I'm not even sure if it's possible to downcast the proxy to the
>>> required
>>> > runtime type.
>>> >
>>> > Also note that the Principal can change during the request. The
>>> simplest
>>> > case is when during an http request HttpServletRequest#logout is
>>> called.
>>> >
>>> > Kind regards,
>>> > Arjan Tijms
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 3:54 PM, John Ament <
>>> john.ament at spartasystems.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hey guys
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I raised a bug against the Weld guys, but think its worth an EG
>>> >> discussion.  When a Principal object is injected, the only type it
>>> has is
>>> >> Principal.  It does not retain the actual type used at runtime.  This
>>> threw
>>> >> me off on some Keycloak integration I'm working on (in $dayjob).  So
>>> I was
>>> >> wondering, is this expected from our POV or should it retain the
>>> types of
>>> >> the actual runtime instance?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> John
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>>> From: Werner Keil <werner.keil at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] Types of Principal object
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>>> Seems the title of the thread was also not "reified" in this case.
>>> Sometimes reply just works, but if it was lost, sorry for that.
>>>
>>> Werner
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Werner Keil <werner.keil at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > We had similar challenges and discussions even before JSR 363 about
>>> > knowing what type of quantity you're dealing with types like
>>> >
>>> > Unit<Q extends Quantity <http://unitsofmeasurement.git
>>> hub.io/unit-api/site/apidocs/javax/measure/Quantity.html><Q>>
>>> >
>>> > I can only confirm Arjan's impression. And I had numerous conversations
>>> > with Andrew Kennedy, the Chief Architect behind the F# Units of
>>> Measurement
>>> > support and other .NET libraries about it. Where he mentioned
>>> shortcomings
>>> > of the Java language especially the lack of Reified Generics (
>>> > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31876372/what-is-reification),
>>> which
>>> > C#, F# or other .NET languages got, but Java won't at least not until
>>> Java
>>> > 10, 11 or even later.
>>> >
>>> > I tried a lot between 2010 and now but so far none of these Reflection
>>> > tricks and approaches were stable enough, so not sure, if it'll work
>>> any
>>> > better in this case (unless you implement CDI in C#;-)
>>> >
>>> > Werner
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 5:29 PM, <cdi-dev-request at lists.jboss.org>
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>>> >>    1. Types of Principal object (John Ament)
>>> >>    2. Re: Types of Principal object (Romain Manni-Bucau)
>>> >>    3. Re: Types of Principal object (Matej Novotny)
>>> >>    4. Re: Types of Principal object (arjan tijms)
>>> >>
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>>> >> Message: 1
>>> >> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 13:54:57 +0000
>>> >> From: John Ament <john.ament at spartasystems.com>
>>> >> Subject: [cdi-dev] Types of Principal object
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>>> >> Hey guys
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I raised a bug against the Weld guys, but think its worth an EG
>>> >> discussion.  When a Principal object is injected, the only type it
>>> has is
>>> >> Principal.  It does not retain the actual type used at runtime.  This
>>> threw
>>> >> me off on some Keycloak integration I'm working on (in $dayjob).  So
>>> I was
>>> >> wondering, is this expected from our POV or should it retain the
>>> types of
>>> >> the actual runtime instance?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> John
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>>> >> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 16:38:01 +0200
>>> >> From: Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau at gmail.com>
>>> >> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] Types of Principal object
>>> >> To: John Ament <john.ament at spartasystems.com>
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>>> >>
>>> >> Hi John,
>>> >>
>>> >> agree CDI/security integration (mainly through Principal bean) is
>>> >> completely unusable in practise cause Principal type is too simple
>>> (name
>>> >> only) and casting is needed in 99.99% of apps. AFAIK It is tracked at
>>> >> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/CDI-597.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Romain Manni-Bucau
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>>> >> 2017-04-26 15:54 GMT+02:00 John Ament <john.ament at spartasystems.com>:
>>> >>
>>> >> > Hey guys
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I raised a bug against the Weld guys, but think its worth an EG
>>> >> > discussion.  When a Principal object is injected, the only type it
>>> has
>>> >> is
>>> >> > Principal.  It does not retain the actual type used at runtime.
>>> This
>>> >> threw
>>> >> > me off on some Keycloak integration I'm working on (in $dayjob).
>>> So I
>>> >> was
>>> >> > wondering, is this expected from our POV or should it retain the
>>> types
>>> >> of
>>> >> > the actual runtime instance?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > John
>>> >> >
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>>> >> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 10:48:40 -0400 (EDT)
>>> >> From: Matej Novotny <manovotn at redhat.com>
>>> >> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] Types of Principal object
>>> >> To: John Ament <john.ament at spartasystems.com>
>>> >> Cc: cdi-dev <cdi-dev at lists.jboss.org>
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>>> >>
>>> >> Hey John,
>>> >>
>>> >> just to shed some light.
>>> >> One of the reasons it works this way is because the types the actual
>>> >> Principal has might not be proxyable.
>>> >> And spec requires all built-in beans to be decorable - e.g. you need
>>> them
>>> >> to be proxyable (although the added value of principal decorator is
>>> ...eh,
>>> >> disputable at best?).
>>> >>
>>> >> Therefore, it is safer/viable to create a proxyable wrapper object
>>> which
>>> >> implements Principal only and delegetas calls (that's what Weld does).
>>> >>
>>> >> Otherwise I agree it could be nice to ahve a way to cast the object as
>>> >> the pure Principal interface doesn't help much.
>>> >>
>>> >> Matej
>>> >>
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> > From: "John Ament" <john.ament at spartasystems.com>
>>> >> > To: "cdi-dev" <cdi-dev at lists.jboss.org>
>>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 3:54:57 PM
>>> >> > Subject: [cdi-dev] Types of Principal object
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Hey guys
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I raised a bug against the Weld guys, but think its worth an EG
>>> >> discussion.
>>> >> > When a Principal object is injected, the only type it has is
>>> Principal.
>>> >> It
>>> >> > does not retain the actual type used at runtime. This threw me off
>>> on
>>> >> some
>>> >> > Keycloak integration I'm working on (in $dayjob). So I was
>>> wondering, is
>>> >> > this expected from our POV or should it retain the types of the
>>> actual
>>> >> > runtime instance?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > John
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
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>>> >> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 17:11:11 +0200
>>> >> From: arjan tijms <arjan.tijms at gmail.com>
>>> >> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] Types of Principal object
>>> >> To: John Ament <john.ament at spartasystems.com>
>>> >> Cc: cdi-dev <cdi-dev at lists.jboss.org>
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>>> >> Hi,
>>> >>
>>> >> We discussed this very issue in the Security API EG as well. In the
>>> >> Security API the actual type *MUST* be retained as per the spec
>>> >> definition.
>>> >>
>>> >> The problem in CDI, at least in Weld, is that a proxy is injected.
>>> This
>>> >> happens via the build-in bean "PrincipalBean extends AbstractEEBean",
>>> >> where
>>> >> AbstractEEBean does:
>>> >>
>>> >> public abstract class AbstractEEBean<T> extends
>>> >> AbstractStaticallyDecorableBuiltInBean<T> {
>>> >>
>>> >>     private final T proxy;
>>> >>
>>> >>     protected AbstractEEBean(Class<T> type, Callable<T> callable,
>>> >> BeanManagerImpl beanManager) {
>>> >>         super(beanManager, type);
>>> >>         this.proxy = new ProxyFactory<T>(beanManager.getContextId(),
>>> >> type,
>>> >> getTypes(), this).create(new EnterpriseTargetBeanInstance(type, new
>>> >> CallableMethodHandler(callable)));
>>> >>     }
>>> >>     // ...
>>> >> }
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm not even sure if it's possible to downcast the proxy to the
>>> required
>>> >> runtime type.
>>> >>
>>> >> Also note that the Principal can change during the request. The
>>> simplest
>>> >> case is when during an http request HttpServletRequest#logout is
>>> called.
>>> >>
>>> >> Kind regards,
>>> >> Arjan Tijms
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 3:54 PM, John Ament <
>>> john.ament at spartasystems.com
>>> >> >
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > Hey guys
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I raised a bug against the Weld guys, but think its worth an EG
>>> >> > discussion.  When a Principal object is injected, the only type it
>>> has
>>> >> is
>>> >> > Principal.  It does not retain the actual type used at runtime.
>>> This
>>> >> threw
>>> >> > me off on some Keycloak integration I'm working on (in $dayjob).
>>> So I
>>> >> was
>>> >> > wondering, is this expected from our POV or should it retain the
>>> types
>>> >> of
>>> >> > the actual runtime instance?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > John
>>> >> >
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