<div dir="ltr">Antoine,<div><br></div><div>As seen, there could be Spring or other stakeholders who prefer either minimum JDK, so let's see if they actually propose it what they suggest (or in a draft upfront like some JSRs like MVC and others did) </div><div><br></div><div>Werner</div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Antoine Sabot-Durand <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:antoine@sabot-durand.net" target="_blank">antoine@sabot-durand.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>Werner,</div><div><br></div><div>Java EE 8 target is JDK 8 as we said before. But te goal of this document is not to discuss with Bob and Juergen how they should use JDK 8 within their spec, but to see if are willing to discuss our suggestion. When we’ll find a general agreement it will be useful to go into such details.</div><div><br></div><div>Antoine</div><div><br></div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Le 8 sept. 2014 à 12:20, Werner Keil <<a href="mailto:werner.keil@gmail.com" target="_blank">werner.keil@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :</div><div><div class="h5"><br><div><div dir="ltr">Antoine/all,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for sharing. I also had a discussion (in his own Spring blog) with Jürgen mainly about modularity, and the JDK minimum requirements for Spring 4.x. He confirmed, the "core" components of Spring 4.1 still run under as low as Java 6, while some modules that can be dynamically (Spring-DM aka OSGi;-) added may directly refer to Java 8, in which case you must run SE 8 or higher.</div><div><br></div><div>So while for Java 6/7 or below version of @Inject.next this:</div><div><br></div><div><span><div style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';color:rgb(0,0,128);font-weight:bold;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">public interface </span><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Provider<</span><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';color:rgb(32,153,157);vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">T</span><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">> </span><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';color:rgb(0,0,128);font-weight:bold;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">extends </span><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Iterable<</span><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';color:rgb(32,153,157);vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">T</span><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">> {</span><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';color:rgb(128,128,128);font-style:italic;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> /**</span><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';color:rgb(128,128,128);font-style:italic;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';color:rgb(128,128,128);font-style:italic;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> * Provides a fully-constructed and injected instance of {</span><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';color:rgb(128,128,128);font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">@code </span><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';color:rgb(128,128,128);font-style:italic;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">T}.</span><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';color:rgb(128,128,128);font-style:italic;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';color:rgb(128,128,128);font-style:italic;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> */</span><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';color:rgb(128,128,128);font-style:italic;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';color:rgb(128,128,128);font-style:italic;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';color:rgb(32,153,157);vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">T </span><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">get();</span></span><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">[...]</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">looks fine, it seemed more than consequent, if you did</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';color:rgb(0,0,128);font-weight:bold;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">public interface </span><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Provider<</span><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';color:rgb(32,153,157);vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">T</span><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">> </span><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';color:rgb(0,0,128);font-weight:bold;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">extends </span><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Iterable<</span><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';color:rgb(32,153,157);vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">T</span><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">>, </span><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Supplier<</span><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';color:rgb(32,153,157);vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">T</span><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:'Courier New';vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">></span><span style="font-family:'Courier New';font-size:12px;white-space:pre-wrap"> {</span></div><div class="gmail_extra">[...]</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">in a Java 8+ case;-)</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Even without looking at Lambdas here in greater detail, it reused what Java SE 8 introduced.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Again, that is something you, Bob, Jürgen and maybe the EE 8 Spec Leads should discuss, what the reasonable minimum requirements for @Inject.next are, if it's SE 8 or a lower version, though those of course may always stick with the previous ones...</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><span style="text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;border-collapse:separate"><span style="font-family:Helvetica"><span 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<div><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Calibri">Werner</span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Calibri"><br></span></div></span></font></div></span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 12:06 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cdi-dev-request@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">cdi-dev-request@lists.jboss.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Send cdi-dev mailing list submissions to<br>
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I received an answer from Bob Lee (off list). He likes te idea of us providing a proposal document. So I worked on it this WE.<br>
Here it is : <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KCzqodA8uzXED5DJrEUyl0x3dOUB5mBwL4KcV8xUY_w/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KCzqodA8uzXED5DJrEUyl0x3dOUB5mBwL4KcV8xUY_w/edit?usp=sharing</a> <<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KCzqodA8uzXED5DJrEUyl0x3dOUB5mBwL4KcV8xUY_w/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KCzqodA8uzXED5DJrEUyl0x3dOUB5mBwL4KcV8xUY_w/edit?usp=sharing</a>><br>
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Your comments and proposal are most welcome. I propose we discuss this point during our next meeting, and if we agree on the final content send it asap to have Bob and Juergen feeling about these suggestion.<br>
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