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    So instead of calling observers asynchronously you suggest turning
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    <div>On 03/31/2015 06:21 PM, Romain
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        <div>// impl behavior would be like
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              <div>Hi Romain,</div>
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              I am not sure, I have fully understand how an observer
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                    Manni-Bucau <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rmannibucau@gmail.com" target="_blank">rmannibucau@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br>
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                      <div dir="ltr">Hi guys,
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                        <div>on async topic if I followed we are at the
                          point where we are looking for an activation
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                        <div>Since Java 8 has now CompletableFuture it
                          would be great to use it. Today the spec
                          doesnt use observer returned values so it is
                          mainly a bad practise to have one even if not
                          strictly forbidden - BTW never saw it in real
                          applications - plus spec is not compatible -
                          not specified at all - with CompletableFuture
                          since it is a new API so we can use it as a
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                        <div>This is quite interesting for few reasons:</div>
                        <div>1- we have our double activation</div>
                        <div>2- API is user friendly (observer is async
                          and has an async signature)</div>
                        <div>3- open door for future async enhancements
                          (hopefully not in CDI) with composition of
                          these observers</div>
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                        <div>Only point I&#39;m not sure is should these
                          observers support sync events. I don&#39;t see
                          anything blocking to do it but can have missed
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                                                  <span style="font-size:small">Romain
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