<div dir="ltr">I raised <a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/CDI-533">https://issues.jboss.org/browse/CDI-533</a> for spec update.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Emily Jiang <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emijiang6@googlemail.com" target="_blank">emijiang6@googlemail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Has anyone created a cdi spec jira for this or I should create one?<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rmannibucau@gmail.com" target="_blank">rmannibucau@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span>2015-05-05 13:39 GMT+02:00 Jozef Hartinger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jharting@redhat.com" target="_blank">jharting@redhat.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>On 05/05/2015 11:38 AM, Mark Struberg wrote:<br>
> Or section 12.<br>
><br>
> Both ways are perfectly backward incompatible. If you drop BDA in section 5 then you break EE modularity and compatibility to EE6 servers (incuding RI). If you drop BDA in section 12 then you break scanning.<br>
</span>They are not incompatible. The only problem with Chapter 5 is that the<br>
way it is written gives some room for a wrong interpretation that is<br>
seemingly inconsistent with Chapter 12. The only open issue here<br>
therefore is how to rephrase the chapter to make it easier to read<br>
correctly the first time.<br>
<span>><br>
> We really need to handle this carefully.<br>
><br>
> Imo we should finally accept that there are 2 different ‚BDA‘ use cases and they both need a different Term. What about using the term BDA for section 12 and only for scanning.<br>
</span>There is a behavior defined in the spec, implemented in the EE7 RI (and<br>
all other compliant implementations) and tested in the TCK. We are not<br>
going to redefine the behavior. What we should do is to update the spec<br>
wording to be more easily understood.<br>
<span>> And the term ‚EE module‘ for section 5 (visibility) + interceptors, alternatives and decorators. That is basically how the EE6 RI behaved and what is the best for users.<br>
</span>Wrong. The EE6 RI implements bean archive isolation correctly (I just<br>
checked).<br></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Didn't check glassfish but most of EE 6 servers didn't respect it cause it was just impossible to write an application using a CDI library with such a rule. I think it should be taken into account anyway because it is an important feedback to the spec.</div><span><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
> It also allows for_much_ better performance! And also please acknowledge the Alternatives-per-JAR is a major PITA in_real_ projects.<br>
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