<div dir="ltr">Personally, I'm not in favor of a slimmed down runtime. It was tried with EJB, but never implemented properly (most implementations that support EJB-lite actually support the entire thing, except for deprecated stuff).<div><br></div><div>I think if we define SE properly we won't have a need for this. </div><div><br></div><div>John<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 8:07 AM Antonio Goncalves <<a href="mailto:antonio.goncalves@gmail.com">antonio.goncalves@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">@Antoine, so which content do you see in CDI Lite ? Are you sure about events ? <div><br></div><div>I'm in favor of a "fatter" 330 that would have :<div><ul><li>@Inject : already there<br></li><li>@Qualifier : already there<br></li><li><b>Producers and disposers<br></b></li><li><b>Programatic lookup<br></b></li><li><b>Java SE Bootstrap</b><br></li></ul><div>When you say "<span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;white-space:pre-wrap"><i>The goal here is not to propose a new EE profile but a subspec</i></span>", 330 could already be seen as a subspec. If you put events apparts, what would be missing in this list in your point of view ? And what obstacles do you see in archieving this ?</div></div></div><div><br></div><div>To boostrap CDI we have a CDIProvider, why not having an InjectionProvider just to bootstrap 330 (then, CDIProvider could extend InjectionProvider, so it bootstraps the all thing) ?</div></div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Antonio</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Antoine Sabot-Durand <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:antoine@sabot-durand.net" target="_blank" onclick="window.open('https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cm&tf=1&to=antoine@sabot-durand.net&cc=&bcc=&su=&body=','_blank');return false;">antoine@sabot-durand.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="white-space:pre-wrap">Yes Arjan, I think it's the first reason. We really should work with them to understand what should be added to CDI 2.0 to have it as a first citizen DI in their spec.<br></div><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Le sam. 29 août 2015 à 23:15, arjan tijms <<a href="mailto:arjan.tijms@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="window.open('https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cm&tf=1&to=arjan.tijms@gmail.com&cc=&bcc=&su=&body=','_blank');return false;">arjan.tijms@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Antonio Goncalves<br>
<<a href="mailto:antonio.goncalves@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="window.open('https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cm&tf=1&to=antonio.goncalves@gmail.com&cc=&bcc=&su=&body=','_blank');return false;">antonio.goncalves@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I remember talking with the JAX-RS guys (Java EE), years ago (back in EE6),<br>
> and their answer for not adopting CDI was "too heavy".<br>
<br>
I can't find an exact reference anymore, but I somewhat remember that<br>
one of the reasons was also simply that CDI as a general solution<br>
finished late in Java EE 6, while JAX-RS finished earlier and had all<br>
the work for their own DI solution already done.<br>
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