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1. Re: CDI-30 hangout meeting (Antoine Sabot-Durand)<br>
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From: Antoine Sabot-Durand <<a href="mailto:antoine@sabot-durand.net">antoine@sabot-durand.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] CDI-30 hangout meeting<br>
To: "John D. Ament" <<a href="mailto:john.d.ament@gmail.com">john.d.ament@gmail.com</a>>, Martin Kouba<br>
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So choices are Friday 24th 5:00 pm CET (same timeslot than our weekly<br>
meeting) or Monday 27th 5:00pm CET.<br>
I can do both but prefer Monday.<br>
<br>
What is your choice?<br>
<br>
Antoine<br>
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Le mar. 21 juin 2016 ? 16:35, John D. Ament <<a href="mailto:john.d.ament@gmail.com">john.d.ament@gmail.com</a>> a<br>
?crit :<br>
<br>
> I just went through the PR one more time. It seems like these are the<br>
> areas of open discussion still:<br>
><br>
> - The name of the class "ActiveContext" needs to be decided. I'm in<br>
> agreement its a bad name, but switching to past tense doesn't help IMHO.<br>
> - Disassociating the thread model and the context model. This is the<br>
> first change that supports this initiative, so I'm not sure if there are<br>
> any concerns with that change.<br>
> - The fact that contexts have IDs. To me it makes sense, but it seems<br>
> like this is not generally agreed (we need some unique identifier to make<br>
> sure we can bridge from existing)<br>
><br>
> John<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 10:27 AM Martin Kouba <<a href="mailto:mkouba@redhat.com">mkouba@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> I'm on PTO until Jun 29 :-(<br>
>><br>
>> However, we've already discussed this with Antoine so I think my<br>
>> presence is not required.<br>
>><br>
>> Martin<br>
>><br>
>> Dne 21.6.2016 v 16:23 John D. Ament napsal(a):<br>
>> > Unfortunately, my schedule's turned south this week and Friday as of now<br>
>> > is the only day I have open.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > What about next week? Monday?<br>
>> ><br>
>> > John<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 4:42 AM Martin Kouba <<a href="mailto:mkouba@redhat.com">mkouba@redhat.com</a><br>
>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:mkouba@redhat.com">mkouba@redhat.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Any day except for Friday is ok for me.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I have a feeling that it will be a tough discussion ;-)<br>
>> ><br>
>> > What I particularly dislike:<br>
>> > * ActiveContext.associate(Thread thread)<br>
>> > * the concept of the context id<br>
>> > * scopeType as a method param (I would prefer a specific<br>
>> method/class<br>
>> > for each supported scope)<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Anyway, if you look at Weld Context Management API [1] you'll find<br>
>> out<br>
>> > that it's pretty powerful but also quite complex. And I don't<br>
>> believe we<br>
>> > will be able to achieve the same level of funcionality with less<br>
>> complex<br>
>> > API (without sacrificing correctness).<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Martin<br>
>> ><br>
>> > [1]<br>
>> ><br>
>> <a href="http://docs.jboss.org/weld/reference/latest/en-US/html/contexts.html#_managing_the_built_in_contexts" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://docs.jboss.org/weld/reference/latest/en-US/html/contexts.html#_managing_the_built_in_contexts</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Dne 21.6.2016 v 09:22 Mark Struberg napsal(a):<br>
>> > > Somewhen this week in the evening (CEST).<br>
>> > > I?ll have a low availability for the following 2 weeks.<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > LieGrue,<br>
>> > > strub<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > >> Am 20.06.2016 um 16:55 schrieb Antoine Sabot-Durand<br>
>> > <<a href="mailto:antoine@sabot-durand.net">antoine@sabot-durand.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:antoine@sabot-durand.net">antoine@sabot-durand.net</a>>>:<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> Hi all,<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> We launched the idea to organize a meeting regarding John's<br>
>> > proposal regarding CDI-30:<br>
>> > >> <a href="https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/291" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/291</a><br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> I wasn't available last week (going to a conference) but I am<br>
>> > this week.<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> So what are your favorite slots for this meeting ?<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> Antoine<br>
>> > >> _______________________________________________<br>
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>> > --<br>
>> > Martin Kouba<br>
>> > Software Engineer<br>
>> > Red Hat, Czech Republic<br>
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>> Martin Kouba<br>
>> Software Engineer<br>
>> Red Hat, Czech Republic<br>
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Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 11:16:23 -0400<br>
From: "John D. Ament" <<a href="mailto:john.d.ament@gmail.com">john.d.ament@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] CDI-30 hangout meeting<br>
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Monday is better for me but I can do both.<br>
On Jun 21, 2016 11:14, "Antoine Sabot-Durand" <<a href="mailto:antoine@sabot-durand.net">antoine@sabot-durand.net</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
> So choices are Friday 24th 5:00 pm CET (same timeslot than our weekly<br>
> meeting) or Monday 27th 5:00pm CET.<br>
> I can do both but prefer Monday.<br>
><br>
> What is your choice?<br>
><br>
> Antoine<br>
><br>
> Le mar. 21 juin 2016 ? 16:35, John D. Ament <<a href="mailto:john.d.ament@gmail.com">john.d.ament@gmail.com</a>> a<br>
> ?crit :<br>
><br>
>> I just went through the PR one more time. It seems like these are the<br>
>> areas of open discussion still:<br>
>><br>
>> - The name of the class "ActiveContext" needs to be decided. I'm in<br>
>> agreement its a bad name, but switching to past tense doesn't help IMHO.<br>
>> - Disassociating the thread model and the context model. This is the<br>
>> first change that supports this initiative, so I'm not sure if there are<br>
>> any concerns with that change.<br>
>> - The fact that contexts have IDs. To me it makes sense, but it seems<br>
>> like this is not generally agreed (we need some unique identifier to make<br>
>> sure we can bridge from existing)<br>
>><br>
>> John<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 10:27 AM Martin Kouba <<a href="mailto:mkouba@redhat.com">mkouba@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> I'm on PTO until Jun 29 :-(<br>
>>><br>
>>> However, we've already discussed this with Antoine so I think my<br>
>>> presence is not required.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Martin<br>
>>><br>
>>> Dne 21.6.2016 v 16:23 John D. Ament napsal(a):<br>
>>> > Unfortunately, my schedule's turned south this week and Friday as of<br>
>>> now<br>
>>> > is the only day I have open.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > What about next week? Monday?<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > John<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 4:42 AM Martin Kouba <<a href="mailto:mkouba@redhat.com">mkouba@redhat.com</a><br>
>>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:mkouba@redhat.com">mkouba@redhat.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Any day except for Friday is ok for me.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > I have a feeling that it will be a tough discussion ;-)<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > What I particularly dislike:<br>
>>> > * ActiveContext.associate(Thread thread)<br>
>>> > * the concept of the context id<br>
>>> > * scopeType as a method param (I would prefer a specific<br>
>>> method/class<br>
>>> > for each supported scope)<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Anyway, if you look at Weld Context Management API [1] you'll find<br>
>>> out<br>
>>> > that it's pretty powerful but also quite complex. And I don't<br>
>>> believe we<br>
>>> > will be able to achieve the same level of funcionality with less<br>
>>> complex<br>
>>> > API (without sacrificing correctness).<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Martin<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > [1]<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> <a href="http://docs.jboss.org/weld/reference/latest/en-US/html/contexts.html#_managing_the_built_in_contexts" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://docs.jboss.org/weld/reference/latest/en-US/html/contexts.html#_managing_the_built_in_contexts</a><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Dne 21.6.2016 v 09:22 Mark Struberg napsal(a):<br>
>>> > > Somewhen this week in the evening (CEST).<br>
>>> > > I?ll have a low availability for the following 2 weeks.<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > LieGrue,<br>
>>> > > strub<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > >> Am 20.06.2016 um 16:55 schrieb Antoine Sabot-Durand<br>
>>> > <<a href="mailto:antoine@sabot-durand.net">antoine@sabot-durand.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:antoine@sabot-durand.net">antoine@sabot-durand.net</a>>>:<br>
>>> > >><br>
>>> > >> Hi all,<br>
>>> > >><br>
>>> > >> We launched the idea to organize a meeting regarding John's<br>
>>> > proposal regarding CDI-30:<br>
>>> > >> <a href="https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/291" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/291</a><br>
>>> > >><br>
>>> > >> I wasn't available last week (going to a conference) but I am<br>
>>> > this week.<br>
>>> > >><br>
>>> > >> So what are your favorite slots for this meeting ?<br>
>>> > >><br>
>>> > >> Antoine<br>
>>> > >> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> > >> cdi-dev mailing list<br>
>>> > >> <a href="mailto:cdi-dev@lists.jboss.org">cdi-dev@lists.jboss.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:cdi-dev@lists.jboss.org">cdi-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>><br>
>>> > >> <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/cdi-dev" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/cdi-dev</a><br>
>>> > >><br>
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>>> > --<br>
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>>> > Software Engineer<br>
>>> > Red Hat, Czech Republic<br>
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>>><br>
>>> --<br>
>>> Martin Kouba<br>
>>> Software Engineer<br>
>>> Red Hat, Czech Republic<br>
>>><br>
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