<div dir="ltr">Yes it will cause start up issues for applications which define transient normal scoped injections, however these Apps currently have runtime issues after dezieralization of passivatable scoped bean.<div><br></div><div>Trading an easily fixable start-up issue for a hard to reproduce runtime issue seems like a good trade off to me.</div><div><br></div><div>Stephan</div><div><div><span style="line-height:1.5"> </span><br></div><div><div><br></div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 at 12:12 Emily Jiang <<a href="mailto:EMIJIANG@uk.ibm.com">EMIJIANG@uk.ibm.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><font size="2" face="sans-serif">If we define an error, we will introduce
a backward compatibility issue. Some app will stop starting. Will this
cause a big problem? If this is not a concern, +1 on defining a DefinitionError
on this case: </font><font size="1" color="#2f2f2f" face="Arial">ERROR - when
normal scoped injects are marked transient.</font><font size="2" face="sans-serif">
and a warning on </font><font size="1" color="#2f2f2f" face="Arial">WARNING
- when non-normal scoped injects are marked transient.</font>
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<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Many thanks,<br>
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<br><font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">From:
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</font><font size="1" face="sans-serif">19/07/2016 08:26</font>
<br><font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">Subject:
</font><font size="1" face="sans-serif">[cdi-dev] CDI-616
Injection point declared as transient is not useful</font>
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<br><font size="3">Hi,</font>
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<br><font size="3">I frequently encounter injections marked transient in
client projects. I really think it would be of great help if we where to
define Error/Warning when injection fields are marked transient. </font>
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<br><font size="3">As Mark pointed out there may be a valid use cases for
non normal-scoped bean injections to be made transient. </font>
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<br><font size="3">My suggestion is: </font>
<ul><li><font size="1" color="#2f2f2f" face="Arial">ERROR - when normal scoped
injects are marked transient.</font>
</li></ul><ul><li><li><font size="1" color="#2f2f2f" face="Arial">WARNING - when non-normal scoped
injects are marked transient.</font>
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<br><font size="3">Looking forward to your feedback.</font>
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