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1. Re: Finding a new name for InterceptorProxyFactory (Mark Struberg)<br>
2. Re: Finding a new name for InterceptorProxyFactory<br>
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3. Re: Finding a new name for InterceptorProxyFactory<br>
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Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 16:58:04 +0000 (UTC)<br>
From: Mark Struberg <<a href="mailto:struberg@yahoo.de">struberg@yahoo.de</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] Finding a new name for InterceptorProxyFactory<br>
To: Romain Manni-Bucau <<a href="mailto:rmannibucau@gmail.com">rmannibucau@gmail.com</a>>, Antoine Sabot-Durand<br>
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InterceptionFactory sounds fine for me.<br>
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LieGrue,<br>
strub<br>
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On Monday, 7 November 2016, 15:55, Romain Manni-Bucau <<a href="mailto:rmannibucau@gmail.com">rmannibucau@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>Hello Antoine,<br>
><br>
><br>
>concurrency-utilities use ContextFactory for something pretty close (a proxying adding spec features over invocations) which is less "cglib-like" than "Enhancer" so I'd like to keep Factory. In the list InterceptionFactory looks clear enough. We neevr speak of business method anymore I think so it would add a difficulty for something very useful to go that deep in the naming I think.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>Romain Manni-Bucau<br>
>@rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn | JavaEE Factory<br>
><br>
>2016-11-07 15:44 GMT+01:00 Antoine Sabot-Durand <<a href="mailto:antoine@sabot-durand.net">antoine@sabot-durand.net</a>>:<br>
><br>
>Hi all,<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>In my last review for CDI-580 (<a href="https://github.com/cdi-spec/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/cdi-spec/</a> cdi/pull/315), I removed all reference to proxies in Javadoc and spec doc following various feedback.<br>
>>So now the name of the interface is the only one dealing with Proxy, so we really need to find it a new name.<br>
>>I listed some proposal in PR 315:<br>
>>- InstanceEnhancer (short but not very clear)<br>
>>- BusinessMethodInvocationFactor y (more exact from spec pov, but is it clear from user pov?)<br>
>>- InterceptionFactory (cleared from user pov and near our initial name)<br>
>>- InterceptionEnhancer<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>Feedback and other names are welcome.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>Antoine<br>
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Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2016 13:24:28 +0000<br>
From: Antoine Sabot-Durand <<a href="mailto:antoine@sabot-durand.net">antoine@sabot-durand.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] Finding a new name for InterceptorProxyFactory<br>
To: Mark Struberg <<a href="mailto:struberg@yahoo.de">struberg@yahoo.de</a>>, Romain Manni-Bucau<br>
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+1 for InterceptionFactory as well. I change my PR with this name.<br>
<br>
Romain, for the record, mentioning "business method invocation" and<br>
paragraph 7.2 is the only mean to bind this feature to the spec without<br>
mentioning implementation specific stuff like proxies. That's why the<br>
javadoc and text for this new section lack clarity. In other word we lack a<br>
simple name for instances on which "methods invocation" are "business<br>
methods invocation".<br>
<br>
Antoine<br>
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On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 5:58 PM Mark Struberg <<a href="mailto:struberg@yahoo.de">struberg@yahoo.de</a>> wrote:<br>
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> InterceptionFactory sounds fine for me.<br>
><br>
><br>
> LieGrue,<br>
> strub<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Monday, 7 November 2016, 15:55, Romain Manni-Bucau <<br>
> <a href="mailto:rmannibucau@gmail.com">rmannibucau@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >Hello Antoine,<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >concurrency-utilities use ContextFactory for something pretty close (a<br>
> proxying adding spec features over invocations) which is less "cglib-like"<br>
> than "Enhancer" so I'd like to keep Factory. In the list<br>
> InterceptionFactory looks clear enough. We neevr speak of business method<br>
> anymore I think so it would add a difficulty for something very useful to<br>
> go that deep in the naming I think.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >Romain Manni-Bucau<br>
> >@rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn | JavaEE Factory<br>
> ><br>
> >2016-11-07 15:44 GMT+01:00 Antoine Sabot-Durand <<a href="mailto:antoine@sabot-durand.net">antoine@sabot-durand.net</a><br>
> >:<br>
> ><br>
> >Hi all,<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >>In my last review for CDI-580 (<a href="https://github.com/cdi-spec/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/cdi-spec/</a><br>
> cdi/pull/315), I removed all reference to proxies in Javadoc and spec doc<br>
> following various feedback.<br>
> >>So now the name of the interface is the only one dealing with Proxy, so<br>
> we really need to find it a new name.<br>
> >>I listed some proposal in PR 315:<br>
> >>- InstanceEnhancer (short but not very clear)<br>
> >>- BusinessMethodInvocationFactor y (more exact from spec pov, but is it<br>
> clear from user pov?)<br>
> >>- InterceptionFactory (cleared from user pov and near our initial name)<br>
> >>- InterceptionEnhancer<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >>Feedback and other names are welcome.<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >>Antoine<br>
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2016-11-08 14:24 GMT+01:00 Antoine Sabot-Durand <<a href="mailto:antoine@sabot-durand.net">antoine@sabot-durand.net</a>>:<br>
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> +1 for InterceptionFactory as well. I change my PR with this name.<br>
><br>
> Romain, for the record, mentioning "business method invocation" and<br>
> paragraph 7.2 is the only mean to bind this feature to the spec without<br>
> mentioning implementation specific stuff like proxies. That's why the<br>
> javadoc and text for this new section lack clarity. In other word we lack a<br>
> simple name for instances on which "methods invocation" are "business<br>
> methods invocation".<br>
><br>
><br>
Agree and it fits the spec but since EJB I never heard any developer (not<br>
developping weld or openwebbeans) using this term so for the API it would<br>
be rude IMHO - was the point, nothing more.<br>
<br>
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> Antoine<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 5:58 PM Mark Struberg <<a href="mailto:struberg@yahoo.de">struberg@yahoo.de</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> InterceptionFactory sounds fine for me.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> LieGrue,<br>
>> strub<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Monday, 7 November 2016, 15:55, Romain Manni-Bucau <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:rmannibucau@gmail.com">rmannibucau@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> >Hello Antoine,<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> >concurrency-utilities use ContextFactory for something pretty close (a<br>
>> proxying adding spec features over invocations) which is less "cglib-like"<br>
>> than "Enhancer" so I'd like to keep Factory. In the list<br>
>> InterceptionFactory looks clear enough. We neevr speak of business method<br>
>> anymore I think so it would add a difficulty for something very useful to<br>
>> go that deep in the naming I think.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> >Romain Manni-Bucau<br>
>> >@rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn | JavaEE Factory<br>
>> ><br>
>> >2016-11-07 15:44 GMT+01:00 Antoine Sabot-Durand <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:antoine@sabot-durand.net">antoine@sabot-durand.net</a>>:<br>
>> ><br>
>> >Hi all,<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >>In my last review for CDI-580 (<a href="https://github.com/cdi-spec/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/cdi-spec/</a><br>
>> cdi/pull/315), I removed all reference to proxies in Javadoc and spec doc<br>
>> following various feedback.<br>
>> >>So now the name of the interface is the only one dealing with Proxy, so<br>
>> we really need to find it a new name.<br>
>> >>I listed some proposal in PR 315:<br>
>> >>- InstanceEnhancer (short but not very clear)<br>
>> >>- BusinessMethodInvocationFactor y (more exact from spec pov, but is it<br>
>> clear from user pov?)<br>
>> >>- InterceptionFactory (cleared from user pov and near our initial name)<br>
>> >>- InterceptionEnhancer<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >>Feedback and other names are welcome.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >>Antoine<br>
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