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InterceptionFactory sounds fine for me.<br class="gmail_msg">
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>concurrency-utilities use ContextFactory for something pretty close (a proxying adding spec features over invocations) which is less "cglib-like" than "Enhancer" so I'd like to keep Factory. In the list InterceptionFactory looks clear enough. We neevr speak
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>>In my last review for CDI-580 (<a href="https://github.com/cdi-spec/" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://github.com/cdi-spec/</a> cdi/pull/315), I removed all reference to proxies in Javadoc and spec doc following various feedback.<br class="gmail_msg">
>>So now the name of the interface is the only one dealing with Proxy, so we really need to find it a new name.<br class="gmail_msg">
>>I listed some proposal in PR 315:<br class="gmail_msg">
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+1 for InterceptionFactory as well. I change my PR with this name.<br class="gmail_msg">
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> than "Enhancer" so I'd like to keep Factory. In the list<br class="gmail_msg">
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>> than "Enhancer" so I'd like to keep Factory. In the list<br class="gmail_msg">
>> InterceptionFactory looks clear enough. We neevr speak of business method<br class="gmail_msg">
>> anymore I think so it would add a difficulty for something very useful to<br class="gmail_msg">
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>> >2016-11-07 15:44 GMT+01:00 Antoine Sabot-Durand <<br class="gmail_msg">
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>> >Hi all,<br class="gmail_msg">
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>> >>In my last review for CDI-580 (<a href="https://github.com/cdi-spec/" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://github.com/cdi-spec/</a><br class="gmail_msg">
>> cdi/pull/315), I removed all reference to proxies in Javadoc and spec doc<br class="gmail_msg">
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>> >>- BusinessMethodInvocationFactor y (more exact from spec pov, but is it<br class="gmail_msg">
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