<div dir="ltr">Hi Hiromi,<div><br></div><div>And thanks for your feedback.</div><div><br></div><div>Regarding your suggestion I'm not sure to understand everything, so giving us code example could help.</div><div><br></div><div>Anyway, I'll try to answer on the points I understood, we won't go on too much magic in CDI: injecting automatically in field if they are not annotated with @Inject.</div><div>This could be confusing and would bring more problem than solution I think. </div><div><br></div><div>But if you need this on your project you can rather easily create a portable extension to implement this feature.</div><div><br></div><div>Regarding hooking on the "new" java keyword, I also think it's a bad idea: user would be never be sure if their variable contains a pojo instance or a contextual instance with a lifecycle they don't own.</div><div><br></div><div>I may have misunderstood your suggestion, so feel free to correct me.</div><div><br></div><div>Antoine Sabot-Durand</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:41 AM <<a href="mailto:hiromi_18_takahashi@mufg.jp">hiromi_18_takahashi@mufg.jp</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div align="left" style="text-align:justify" class="gmail_msg">Hi, I'm Hiromi Takahashi.</div>
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<div align="left" style="text-align:justify" class="gmail_msg">I work for Mitsubishi UFJ Information Technology.</div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:justify" class="gmail_msg">Our company is in charge of Mitsubishi UFJ financial group system development, operation and maintenance.</div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:justify" class="gmail_msg">And then , I'm in charge of in-house Java framework.</div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:justify" class="gmail_msg">Our Java framework depends heavily on Java SE and Java EE technologies.</div>
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<div align="left" style="text-align:justify" class="gmail_msg">I think it's great.</div>
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<div align="left" style="text-align:justify" class="gmail_msg">On the other hand, to make things even better, I would like to suggest the following:</div>
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<div align="left" style="text-align:justify" class="gmail_msg">What I think is great about CDI is its ability to inject to Java object "transparently".</div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:justify" class="gmail_msg">However, with the current spec of CDI, it requires some coding each time to get the injected objects.</div>
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<div align="left" style="text-align:justify" class="gmail_msg">For example, in getNewInstance() method, I think it would be great if CDI could judge if there was an injected field or not </div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:justify" class="gmail_msg">(ie. if there is an injected field then CDI injects, and if not CDI just makes a new instance.) </div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:justify" class="gmail_msg">How we code would be even simpler and more beautiful.</div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:justify" class="gmail_msg">This way, users can always generate instances in such standard method.</div>
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<div align="left" style="text-align:justify" class="gmail_msg">Also, it could be even better if CDI could act like below when using "new" descriptor:</div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:justify" class="gmail_msg">- If the class has injected field, then get the injected instances</div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:justify" class="gmail_msg">- If the class has no injected field, then just simply get a new instance</div>
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<div align="left" style="text-align:justify" class="gmail_msg">In Java EE, these functions are the container's role and CDI may not have to be in charge of them.</div>
<div align="left" style="text-align:justify" class="gmail_msg">However, considering CDI may be used in Java SE, I think CDI needs to act like above in the future.</div>
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