[esb-dev] build error

[Tom Fennelly]

Mark Little wrote:
> The problem with revamping is that you never know where to stop or you 
> could be opening up a can of worms. I think Kev hinted at this yesterday. 
Shotgun Surgery - that was moi
> So although I'd be +1 to fixing these if it makes an appreciable 
> difference to build time, I'd -1 if that means spending the next week 
> or so working on build scripts and the knock-on effect that has on 
> everyone else while it's going on and after it's "complete".
Know what you mean... I'd leave it altogether until after the 4.2 
release, at which point you'll probably want to leave it forever ;-)  
Personally I feel there's only one real solution to this and that's a 
rework, but I'm sure others will disagree and push for more patching :-)
>
> I can put up with a 21 minute build. If you guys are at the 7 minute 
> level (new machines ;-) then I'm not sure it's a big impact on what 
> you're doing in terms of build time.
It's a pain in the ass, but ... role on 5.0 and maven2 :-)
>
> Mark.
>
>
> On 28 Jun 2007, at 12:22, Tom Fennelly wrote:
>
>> If we were going to spend time on the build scripts, I'd vote for 
>> looking at ways to simplify them altogether rather than patching them 
>> more with timers etc.  I think once we simplify them, we'll be in a 
>> better position to sort out issues around making it run quicker.
>>
>> The product/build.xml has 33 targets in it >:o .  As I see it, the 
>> whole thing is overly hierarchical with build.xml files at nearly 
>> every level + separate build.xml files for testing etc.  Many of the 
>> property names are so long that it becomes very difficult to 
>> distinguish between them. 
>> I think we're overly fixated with trying to make the build scripts 
>> super intelligent ala "I want to be able to run any target and have 
>> the build figure out what else needs to be run" resulting in every 
>> target being dependent on every other target up and down the build.
>>
>> Sorry for going on a bit.  It's just that our build is something that 
>> drives me bats.
>>
>> KISS :-*
>>
>> T.
>>
>>
>> Mark Little wrote:
>>> I'd +1 on fixing this up if it can dramatically reduce build times. 
>>> Any idea what we might get it down to? I seem to recall it used to 
>>> take about 7 minutes on my "old" box :-(
>>>
>>> Mark.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 28 Jun 2007, at 11:55, Kevin Conner wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kevin Conner wrote:
>>>>> As I said, I will go through it tonight and make sure it is correct :)
>>>>
>>>> I went through the build files and tidied them up but this is not the
>>>> reason for the long build time.  It appears that a number of 
>>>> targets are
>>>> being called more than once, caused by the build files traversing their
>>>> targets horizontally and vertically.
>>>>
>>>> There are a number of tasks which can handle this, javac springs to
>>>> mind, but the majority of them do not.  The normal way of handling 
>>>> these
>>>> types of issue is to create a timestamp file when the particular target
>>>> executes.  This timestamp file can then be used, in conjunction 
>>>> with the
>>>> target requirements, to determine whether the target needs to be 
>>>> executed.
>>>>
>>>> This could be used to shorten the build cycle, especially for repeat
>>>> invocations (i.e. rerunning tests).
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone feel that this is something worth implementing at this 
>>>> stage?
>>>>
>>>> Kev
>>>>
>>>> P.S. I am sharing wireless atm so may not get any replies until 
>>>> tomorrow :)
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> Mark Little
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