[forge-dev] Forge build back to Stable (Hack away!)
Ivan St. Ivanov
ivan.st.ivanov at gmail.com
Wed Dec 7 04:33:32 EST 2011
Hi!
Unfortunately, I am using Windows 7. At home I have one Windows Vista, but
no XP. I can create a VirtualBox instance and install XP inside, but it
will take me some time.
BTW, if it is really hanging, can you (Richard or Koen) press Ctrl+Break
and see whether some thread is causing this?
Cheers!
Ivan
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 6:40 AM, Richard Kennard <
richard at kennardconsulting.com> wrote:
> Yeah it never starts up.
>
> To be absolutely clear:
>
> 1. It does not crash or die. There is no stack trace or return to the
> command prompt.
> 2. It runs in the sense that you get a flashing cursor that just sits
> there. But it does not display the 'Forge' ASCII art or anything
> 3. It is evidently waiting on input, because if you hit return the cursor
> moves down a line. But only once. Pressing return a second time does nothing
>
> On 7/12/2011 3:31 PM, Lincoln Baxter, III wrote:
> > I think they mean that it never starts up, which is very strange to me.
> >
> > Happy holiday! I haven't actually heard of that one before (ignorant
> me.) But have fun :)
> >
> > I do want to work on the startup time, but this "never starting"
> behavior is very strange and I can't reproduce it on windows 7.
> >
> > Hopefully Koen will be able to. (Unless you have access to a windows 95
> box?)
> >
> > ~Lincoln
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Ivan St. Ivanov <
> ivan.st.ivanov at gmail.com <mailto:ivan.st.ivanov at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Lincoln, folks!
> >
> > Sure I will help. However, I wonder a couple of things:
> >
> > 1) What do you mean by hanging? Yes, Forge takes some 5-10 seconds
> to start, but it finally starts. So do you aim at ~2 seconds start or maybe
> at
> > Koen's and Richard's computers it never starts at all
> >
> > 2) When I start the debug session, should I put somewhere
> breakpoints? If yes, where?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Ivan
> >
> > P.S. Sorry, but I'll do that tomorrow! Today is St. Nicolas's day
> here in Bulgaria (and I believe in the whole Christian world) and right now
> I am
> > celebrating with a friend of mine his name's day ;-)
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Lincoln Baxter, III <
> lincolnbaxter at gmail.com <mailto:lincolnbaxter at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Awesome, thanks koen.
> >
> > Ivan,
> >
> > Could I ask you a favor? Could you follow the debugging
> instructions in FORGE-400 (comments) and try to find our where Forge is
> hanging at
> > runtime? This would help me a *lot* since I cannot get access to
> an XP machine right now.
> >
> > ~Lincoln
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:44 AM, Koen Aers <koen.aers at gmail.com<mailto:
> koen.aers at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I have created https://issues.jboss.org/browse/FORGE-400.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Koen
> >
> > Op 6-dec.-2011, om 09:20 heeft Richard Kennard het volgende
> geschreven:
> >
> > >> on Windows 7: run hangs right after startup
> > >
> > > Yes, I can confirm this.
> > >
> > > Richard.
> > >
> > > On 6/12/2011 6:16 PM, Koen Aers wrote:
> > >> This is very strange. I didn't go into the details but
> while running the tests on XP I had to use the "line.separator" property
> because
> > the output in the
> > >> test contained "\r\n" and not "\n".
> > >> I'm confused now…
> > >>
> > >> Btw, I don't know what's happening but I can's seem to
> build trunk on any other platform than OSX.
> > >>
> > >> - on XP: build as well as run hang
> > >> - on Windows 7: build fails with compilation error, run
> hangs right after startup
> > >> - on Fedora 16: build fails with (another) compilation
> error, run is ok
> > >>
> > >> I tried the runs with a snapshot build that I did on OSX.
> I'll create a JIRA issue to track these problems.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Koen
> > >>
> > >> Op 5-dec.-2011, om 22:24 heeft Ivan St. Ivanov het
> volgende geschreven:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi folks,
> > >>>
> > >>> Richard, thanks a lot for the hint! After downloading
> the latest version my source compiles.
> > >>>
> > >>> However, now I get an error in the test:
> JavaClassTest::testFormattingIsNotChanged. The problem is in the asserts
> that check whether the
> > output contains
> > >>> Telephone + line.separator + {. The next assert, which
> also has the line.separator inside, fails too. I am running on Windows. And
> there
> > line.separator
> > >>> is \r\n. However, in the output we get just \n. Which is
> fine on Mac or UNIX.
> > >>>
> > >>> If I change the asserts like this (replace
> line.separator with \n):
> > >>>
> > >>> assertTrue(output.contains(
> > >>> "Telephone\n{"));
> > >>> assertTrue(output.contains(
> > >>> ")\n {"));
> > >>>
> > >>> ...it works on Windows.
> > >>>
> > >>> Of course it's better to fix this in the code, but I saw
> that the toString method uses the stuff from Eclipse
> > (org.eclipse.jface.text.Document,
> > >>> org.eclipse.text.edits.TextEdit,
> org.eclipse.jdt.core.dom.CompilationUnit). So I'm not sure whether we can
> do anything there. Unless some
> > of you has
> > >>> commit permissions in Eclipse or my observations are
> wrong :-)
> > >>>
> > >>> What do you think?
> > >>>
> > >>> Cheers!
> > >>> Ivan
> > >>>
> > >>> P.S. If I change the test like above (with \n instead of
> line.separator), the maven build is successful
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Richard Kennard <
> richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com>
> > <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:
> richard at kennardconsulting.com>>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Ivan,
> > >>>
> > >>> Apologies. Forge is currently building against a
> Metawidget snapshot, and that snapshot is still changing. You will need to
> pull the
> > latest Forge
> > >>> build in
> > >>> order to get the changes (HtmlTableLayout has become
> HtmlPanelGridLayout).
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> Richard.
> > >>>
> > >>> On 5/12/2011 1:58 AM, Ivan St. Ivanov wrote:
> > >>>> Hi guys!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I did not pull or merge anything since my last
> successful build (or at least I think so). And now I have a compilation
> problem:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> [ERROR]
> \projects\seamforge\core\scaffold-faces\src\main\java\org\jboss\forge\scaffold\faces\FacesScaffold.java:[87,60]
> > >>>> cannot find symbol
> > >>>> symbol : class HtmlTableLayout
> > >>>> location: package
> org.metawidget.statically.faces.component.html.layout
> > >>>>
> > >>>> [ERROR]
> \projects\seamforge\core\scaffold-faces\src\main\java\org\jboss\forge\scaffold\faces\FacesScaffold.java:[354,48]
> > >>>> cannot find symbol
> > >>>> symbol : class HtmlTableLayout
> > >>>> location: class
> org.jboss.forge.scaffold.faces.FacesScaffold
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The HtmlTableLayout class is in the
> org.metawidget.statically.faces.component.html.layout package coming from
> the
> > >>> org.metawidget.modules/metawidget-all
> > >>>> dependency (version 1.35-SNAPSHOT). There is really no
> such class in the metawidget library. I went on to check the jboss maven
> > repository. The class
> > >>>> HTMLTableLayout Indeed existed in older versions of the
> jar. However, it's not there in latest ones (those after 1st December).
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Does anybody else have the same problem?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>> Ivan
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Koen Aers <
> koen.aers at gmail.com <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com> <mailto:
> koen.aers at gmail.com
> > <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com>> <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com<mailto:
> koen.aers at gmail.com>
> > >>> <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com>>>>
> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> After fixing the failing test on XP, another problem
> shows up…
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The test 'ValidationFacetTest' in 'forge-javaee-impl'
> hangs while initializing the fixture.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> More in detail, the call 'beanManager.fireEvent(new
> Startup())' in the 'beforeTest()' method of the class
> > 'SingletonAbstractShellTest.java' never
> > >>>> returns.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I have no clue as to what might be the cause of this.
> Any suggestions welcome.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Cheers,
> > >>>> Koen
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Op 1-dec.-2011, om 09:15 heeft Ivan St. Ivanov het
> volgende geschreven:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I does hang for ~5 seconds. Not sure if that is
> problematic. But Beta 3 has the same behavior.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Once it is started I don't see any delays (created new
> project, setup persistence, added an entity and a field).
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Cheers!
> > >>>>> Ivan
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Richard Kennard <
> richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com>
> > <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:
> richard at kennardconsulting.com>>
> > >>> <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:
> richard at kennardconsulting.com> <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com
> > <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> But does it run okay? For me, it kept hanging at the
> command prompt after I typed 'bin/forge'.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Richard.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 1/12/2011 10:08 AM, Ivan St. Ivanov wrote:
> > >>>>>> Maven build is successful on Windows 7 :-)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Keith Babo <
> kbabo at redhat.com <mailto:kbabo at redhat.com> <mailto:kbabo at redhat.com
> > <mailto:kbabo at redhat.com>> <mailto:kbabo at redhat.com <mailto:
> kbabo at redhat.com> <mailto:kbabo at redhat.com <mailto:kbabo at redhat.com>>>
> > >>> <mailto:kbabo at redhat.com <mailto:kbabo at redhat.com>
> <mailto:kbabo at redhat.com <mailto:kbabo at redhat.com>> <mailto:
> kbabo at redhat.com
> > <mailto:kbabo at redhat.com> <mailto:kbabo at redhat.com <mailto:
> kbabo at redhat.com>>>>>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> You could always spin up a job on the JBoss Jenkins
> server to build this on Windows for you ….
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Nov 30, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Lincoln Baxter, III
> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Hey Koen,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Could I ask you to look in to this? I am not at a
> place where I have access to windows, and I don't see that error on OSX.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thanks!
> > >>>>>>> ~Lincoln
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Koen Aers <
> koen.aers at gmail.com <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com> <mailto:
> koen.aers at gmail.com
> > <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com>> <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com<mailto:
> koen.aers at gmail.com>
> > >>> <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com>>>
> <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com>
> > <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com>>
> > >>>>> <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com <mailto:
> koen.aers at gmail.com> <mailto:koen.aers at gmail.com <mailto:
> koen.aers at gmail.com>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I was able to build, test and run without issues on
> OSX. On Windows (XP) the build stopped after the following failing test. I
> didn't
> > >>>>>>> investigate any further.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>>> Koen
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>> Test set:
> org.jboss.forge.test.parser.java.JavaClassTest
> > >>>>>>>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>> Tests run: 25, Failures: 1, Errors: 0, Skipped: 0,
> Time elapsed: 0.078 sec <<< FAILURE!
> > >>>>>>>
> testFormattingIsNotChanged(org.jboss.forge.test.parser.java.JavaClassTest)
> Time elapsed: 0.015 sec <<< FAILURE!
> > >>>>>>> java.lang.AssertionError:
> > >>>>>>> at org.junit.Assert.fail(Assert.java:91)
> > >>>>>>> at org.junit.Assert.assertTrue(Assert.java:43)
> > >>>>>>> at org.junit.Assert.assertTrue(Assert.java:54)
> > >>>>>>> at
> org.jboss.forge.test.parser.java.JavaClassTest.testFormattingIsNotChanged(JavaClassTest.java:77)
> > >>>>>>> at
> sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
> > >>>>>>> at
> sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
> > >>>>>>> at
> sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
> > >>>>>>> at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
> > >>>>>>> at
> org.junit.runners.model.FrameworkMethod$1.runReflectiveCall(FrameworkMethod.java:44)
> > >>>>>>> at
> org.junit.internal.runners.model.ReflectiveCallable.run(ReflectiveCallable.java:15)
> > >>>>>>> at
> org.junit.runners.model.FrameworkMethod.invokeExplosively(FrameworkMethod.java:41)
> > >>>>>>> at
> org.junit.internal.runners.statements.InvokeMethod.evaluate(InvokeMethod.java:20)
> > >>>>>>> at
> org.junit.internal.runners.statements.RunBefores.evaluate(RunBefores.java:28)
> > >>>>>>> at
> org.junit.runners.BlockJUnit4ClassRunner.runChild(BlockJUnit4ClassRunner.java:76)
> > >>>>>>> at
> org.junit.runners.BlockJUnit4ClassRunner.runChild(BlockJUnit4ClassRunner.java:50)
> > >>>>>>> at
> org.junit.runners.ParentRunner$3.run(ParentRunner.java:193)
> > >>>>>>> at
> org.junit.runners.ParentRunner$1.schedule(ParentRunner.java:52)
> > >>>>>>> at
> org.junit.runners.ParentRunner.runChildren(ParentRunner.java:191)
> > >>>>>>> at
> org.junit.runners.ParentRunner.access$000(ParentRunner.java:42)
> > >>>>>>> at
> org.junit.runners.ParentRunner$2.evaluate(ParentRunner.java:184)
> > >>>>>>> at
> org.junit.runners.ParentRunner.run(ParentRunner.java:236)
> > >>>>>>> at
> org.apache.maven.surefire.junit4.JUnit4TestSet.execute(JUnit4TestSet.java:59)
> > >>>>>>> at
> org.apache.maven.surefire.suite.AbstractDirectoryTestSuite.executeTestSet(AbstractDirectoryTestSuite.java:115)
> > >>>>>>> at
> org.apache.maven.surefire.suite.AbstractDirectoryTestSuite.execute(AbstractDirectoryTestSuite.java:102)
> > >>>>>>> at
> org.apache.maven.surefire.Surefire.run(Surefire.java:180)
> > >>>>>>> at
> sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
> > >>>>>>> at
> sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
> > >>>>>>> at
> sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
> > >>>>>>> at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
> > >>>>>>> at
> org.apache.maven.surefire.booter.SurefireBooter.runSuitesInProcess(SurefireBooter.java:350)
> > >>>>>>> at
> org.apache.maven.surefire.booter.SurefireBooter.main(SurefireBooter.java:1021)
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Richard Kennard <
> richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com>
> > <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:
> richard at kennardconsulting.com>>
> > >>> <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:
> richard at kennardconsulting.com> <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com
> > <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com>>>
> > >>>>> <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:
> richard at kennardconsulting.com> <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com
> > <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com>> <mailto:
> richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com>
> > >>> <mailto:richard at kennardconsulting.com <mailto:
> richard at kennardconsulting.com>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Lincoln,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> The build seems to run, and there are no lingering
> test failures, but on Windows the distribution fails to start up? It just
> hangs at the
> > >>>>>>> command prompt,
> > >>>>>>> without printing 'Forge' in ASCII text or anything.
> It appears to be waiting for keyboard input, as if I press ENTER the cursor
> moves
> > down
> > >>>>>>> once, but then
> > >>>>>>> it too stops.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I have grown so used to Forge telling me I'm an
> idiot for running Windows, but now it won't even do that :)
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Richard.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On 30/11/2011 9:07 PM, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> What was the problem in the end ?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> My guess was a memory leak in forge or the
> testsuite - did I win ?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> /max
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2011, at 22:16, Lincoln Baxter, III
> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Please feel free to run the full build on any
> operating system, without the aggravation of lingering test failures!
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>> Lincoln Baxter, III
> > >>>>>>>>> http://ocpsoft.com <http://ocpsoft.com/> <
> http://ocpsoft.com/> <http://ocpsoft.com/>
> > >>>>>>>>> http://scrumshark.com <http://scrumshark.com/> <
> http://scrumshark.com/> <http://scrumshark.com/>
> > >>>>>>>>> "Keep it Simple"
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> > >>>>>>> http://ocpsoft.com <http://ocpsoft.com/> <
> http://ocpsoft.com/> <http://ocpsoft.com/>
> > >>>>>>> http://scrumshark.com <http://scrumshark.com/> <
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