[forge-dev] Forge 2 - Starting troubles

Lincoln Baxter, III lincolnbaxter at gmail.com
Wed Jan 22 09:46:54 EST 2014


Great feedback.

#1. The new website should help address the beginner's guide problem.

#2. We have discussed the problem of lack of detailed information in
eclipse. This is a must.

I'm wondering about #3. The EE7 APIs should be added if you select the EE7
version of the specification. Is this not working?


On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Vineet Reynolds Pereira <
vpereira at redhat.com> wrote:

>
> Hey all,
>
>     I managed to get a beginner (who shall be anonymous for now), to try
> out Forge 2. It turned out to be rather interesting, since he managed to
> build it from source, install JBossTools-Forge into Eclipse, before running
> into some issues. I think some of these would affect how we look at
> usability of Forge in several areas - the tooling in Eclipse, the web site
> etc.
>
>     Some of the questions that were asked were:
>
>     1. "Is there an overview or something of forge 1/2 ?"
>
>     and later (in response to this:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dpou-FWWatI):
>
>     "not really, it tells me more about how powerful it is - but no
> overview, why I should do what, says I can use it from the command line but
> I did not spot how, ..."
>
>     I think a beginner guide would help here, that would help users who're
> new to even Java EE.
>
>     2. Later on, when using Forge in Eclipse, this feedback was offered:
>     "I noticed on the 'Forge Run Command' dialog, the Tooltip did not
> really add much to what could be gained from the command name!
>      ...
>      possible it might be a good idea to have a variable sized text panel
> in the bottom half to give a more detailed explanation"
>
>     I'm not sure if the Eclipse UI guidelines allow for that, but it's
> something to consider.
>
>     3. Another interesting issue is that of the EE 6/7 POMs being
> installed into the project:
>
>       * Selected 'JPA setup' version 2.1
>       * Selected Wildfly Aplication Server
>       * Specified: Java EE, forge-default
>       * Modified HSQLDB to POSTGRES using java:jboss/datasource/ExamplDS
> as datasource,
>       * and now pom.xml has <artifactId>jboss-javaee-6.0</artifactId> and
> other changes
>
>      The EE 7 APIs were expected to added here.
>
>     I've also raised FORGE-1385 for Java 1.7 support, but that's fixed and
> should be out in the next release, so it is moot.
>
>     Discuss!
>
> Vineet
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