[forge-dev] GSoC project idea: Create Tattletale plugin for Eclipse
George Gastaldi
ggastald at redhat.com
Fri Mar 21 11:19:25 EDT 2014
Excellent!
Don't forget to apply in the google-melange site, otherwise the proposal
may never get a chance to be approved.
Unfortunately, it also doesn't mean it will be approved, since we have
limited slots.
Thanks!
On 21-03-2014 10:43, Dejan Simeonov wrote:
> Yes it helped, the newest version is working now:
>
> [GSOC2014]$ version
>
> JBoss Forge, version [ 2.3.0.Final ] - JBoss, by Red Hat, Inc. [
> http://jboss.org/forge ]
>
> Thanks Rafael !
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Rafael Pestano <rmpestano at gmail.com
> <mailto:rmpestano at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> "but it is using older Forge, version 1.4.4"
>
> try to delete .forge folder content, on unix its under
> user/home/.forge.
>
> I hope that helps
>
>
> 2014-03-21 9:57 GMT-03:00 Matt Benson <gudnabrsam at gmail.com
> <mailto:gudnabrsam at gmail.com>>:
>
> I know your proposal is due today, so I'll talk out of turn:
> There is no future in Forge 1. You should be concentrating on
> Forge 2, but more generally in realistic terms you should aim
> for your addon to be compatible with whatever the current
> version of Forge is near the end of the summer if at all
> possible. I.e., if F3 were to be released it would be similar
> in most respects to F2, and migration would probably not
> represent much, if any, burden. Good luck to you!
>
> Matt
>
> On Mar 21, 2014 7:50 AM, "Dejan Simeonov"
> <dejanfrancuzo at gmail.com <mailto:dejanfrancuzo at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I started working with earlier version, Forge 1.4.4. but I
> have some issues since switched to Forge 2.2.0.
> -Eclipse plugin could not be installed from the Eclipse
> Update Site -
> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/builds/staging/jbosstools-forge_master/all/repo/
> Error is:
> Cannot complete the install because one or more required
> items could not be found.
> Software being installed: JBoss Tools - Tests - Forge
> 1.3.0.Beta2-v20140321-0817-B552
> (org.jboss.tools.forge.ext.test.feature.feature.group
> 1.3.0.Beta2-v20140321-0817-B552)
> ...
> I used Eclipse Juno Service Release 2
>
> Now, I switched to Eclipse 4.3, Kepler, I managed to
> install Forge plugin and Forge console works fine, but it
> is using older Forge, version 1.4.4
>
> What you prefer: We could implement Tattletale addon for
> Forge 2, or to be more specific, for current official
> release, Forge 2.3.0.Final, or it is better to use older
> version, 1.4.4?
> What is your opinion? Please advice.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 8:23 PM, George Gastaldi
> <ggastald at redhat.com <mailto:ggastald at redhat.com>> wrote:
>
> That's awesome Dejan. The docs you mentioned covers
> Forge 1.x. The docs for 2.x are available in
> github.com/forge/core <http://github.com/forge/core>
> at the moment. We are working on a new website for
> Forge 2 and it should be available soon.
>
> Join us on irc.freenode.net <http://irc.freenode.net>
> @ #forge if you have any questions. We'll be glad to
> help you out.
>
> Em 20/03/2014, às 16:17, Dejan Simeonov
> <dejanfrancuzo at gmail.com
> <mailto:dejanfrancuzo at gmail.com>> escreveu:
>
>> Hi George,
>>
>> actually I haven't been tried Forge, but now I tried
>> it and I can share my thoughts.
>> I did not have time to use Forge project in the real
>> life, but I installed and tested it a little and walk
>> through several tutorials and examples. For now I am
>> amazed with it's simplicity and usability of this tool.
>> For example, before I discovered Maven I have
>> previous experience with crating of JEE project
>> setup, or using Hibernate so I know how amount of
>> Google-ing, how much effort is needed, and how
>> painful process was that.
>> Because of that, I appreciate tools like Forge.
>>
>> Regarding my previous idea, I think it can be applied
>> to Forge, too. I think that Tattletale could be used
>> by Forge through its plug-in(addon) mechanism.
>> Because Forge is not limited only to creating and
>> displaying the reports, but most of his commands are
>> created to solve common problems, we should
>> implement remove-unused-dependencies addon with
>> reporting capabilities, too. This extension
>> should use Tattletale for the core logic.
>> So idea is to:
>> *Create Tattletale addon for Forge2*
>> The main features of future plugin remains the same
>> as that are previously proposed for the Eclipse plugin:
>>
>> * Tattletale tool requires that all dependencies
>> should be placed in the same folder. Tattletale
>> Forge plugin should be able to automatically
>> recognize all libraries referenced by the
>> different types of projects project.
>> * This plugin should include compiled classes of
>> current project into report. This way, developer
>> does not have to create build(all jars) to create
>> the valid Tattletale report. Process should be
>> automated.
>> * list-duplicated-classes command should be
>> implemented(Multiple Locations report should be used)
>> * find/list-unused-dependencies command should be
>> implemented (Unused Jars report should be used).
>> * We should add commands like
>> "remove-unused-dependencies",
>> "eliminate-dependencies-with different-versions".
>> The nature of Forge tool is not only "advisory"
>> and it should be able to manage class-path for
>> example, for Maven projects.
>> These commands should be able to guide user
>> through step by step process of finding/marking
>> and removing the unused dependencies.
>> * For the beginning we should create plugin and
>> make it work fine with one type of
>> projects(Maven), and then in the next iterations
>> we could expand support for more type of projects.
>> * This plugin should be able to create default
>> Tattletale HTML report.
>>
>> I already started developing my first Forge plugin.
>> You have great tutorial here:
>> http://forge.jboss.org/docs/plugin_development/#content
>> I will play with it for a while, review API, and then
>> will come with mode in-depth proposal.
>>
>> It will be great if we can create this plugin as part
>> of GSoC 2014.
>>
>> Please, review the ideas, advice and feel free to
>> comment
>>
>> Thank you
>> Dejan
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:53 PM, George Gastaldi
>> <ggastald at redhat.com <mailto:ggastald at redhat.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Nice to meet you Dejan.
>>
>> First of all, have you tried Forge 2? I'd like
>> you to give it a try:
>>
>> https://github.com/forge/core/blob/master/README.asciidoc
>>
>> The idea in Forge is to provide tooling that is
>> not coupled to the IDE implementation, that is,
>> the code you write will run in Shell, Eclipse,
>> NetBeans, IDEA, etc (as long as there is an
>> implementation of the Forge APIs for each IDE -
>> at the moment we have Eclipse and Shell).
>>
>> I believe that a Tattletale addon would be nice
>> to have.
>> There is also a talk about Forge 2 in here:
>> http://t.co/aWCzQPWeTp (Thanks to Ivan).
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> George Gastaldi
>>
>>
>> On 19-03-2014 07:41, Dejan Simeonov wrote:
>>> Hi Forge team, Hi George,
>>> Let me briefly introduce myself:
>>> My name is Dejan Simeonov, and I am final-year
>>> student of Faculty of Organizational Sciences,
>>> University of Belgrade, Serbia.
>>> I have experience with Java, PHP, HTML and CSS,
>>> SVN, GIT... I am familiar with Eclipse and
>>> several open-source tools for Statistic Code
>>> analysis as Eclipse and Hudson plugins.
>>> Currently I am learning about Maven and Eclipse
>>> Plugins implementation.
>>> And I would like to participate as a student in
>>> Google Summer Of Code 2014.
>>> Several days ago I proposed my ideas for GSoC
>>> to Jonathan, JBoss's GSoC mentor. We talked
>>> about them and he advised me to review one of
>>> them with you, Forge team, hopefully to help me
>>> with the concrete details and specification.
>>> One of tools I used is Tattletale. I found it
>>> very useful for investigating dependencies
>>> inside the project and to discovering unused jars.
>>> I used it as command line and Maven plugin, but
>>> I think it could be even more useful as Eclipse
>>> plugin. So, idea is:
>>> Create Tattletale plugin for Eclipse
>>> Lot of tools have plugin for Eclipse. (Findbugs,
>>> PMD...). Tattletale plugin for Eclipse still
>>> does not exist, but this way it should be easier
>>> to use comparing to usage trough console .
>>> Tattletale tool could be used as engine for this
>>> plugin. The basic plugin implementation could
>>> display standard Tattletale HTML report inside
>>> the Eclipse, but some sub reports like "Unused
>>> Jar" or "Multiple Jar files" could "mark" some
>>> referenced libraries displayed in the Eclipse
>>> controls and highlight them for the removal.
>>> I investigate a little and I found that
>>> developers like to periodically use the
>>> Tattletale tool to review dependencies inside
>>> the project, to remove unused ones and this way,
>>> to keep projects 'fit'.
>>> This option could be one of the main feature of
>>> the future plugin.
>>> Other things this plugin should be able to do
>>> are (several ideas):
>>>
>>> * Tattletale tool requires that all
>>> dependencies should be placed in the same
>>> folder. Tattletale Eclipse plugin should be
>>> able to automatically recognize all
>>> libraries referenced by the Eclipse
>>> project, like jars inside the project,
>>> external jars and Maven dependencies.
>>> * This plugin should include compiled classes
>>> of current Eclipse project into report.
>>> Dependent eclipse project should be
>>> included, too. This way, developer does not
>>> have to create build(all jars) to create the
>>> valid Tattletale report.
>>> * Mark Duplicated class in the Project
>>> Explorer(Multiple Locations report should be
>>> used). This is possible, Eclipse API
>>> supports this, Findbugs plugin can do it.
>>> * Mark Unused JAR files in the Project
>>> Explorer's Referenced Libraries node(Unused
>>> Jars report should be used). Currently, I do
>>> not know is this possible.
>>> * This plugin should be able to create and
>>> open default HTML report in Eclipse plugin.
>>> This report could allow to navigate to
>>> particular class listed in it using
>>> CTRL+LeftClick. Currently Tattletale does
>>> not support this.
>>> * Graphical dependencies report should work
>>> "out of the box"
>>> * We could add options like "Remove unused
>>> dependencies", "Eliminate Jar files with
>>> different versions", but this should be
>>> discussed. This tool could have only
>>> "advisory" nature and could manage
>>> class-path for Maven and Eclipse Java
>>> projects. I am not sure should we provide
>>> potentially risky options which are
>>> managing eclipse project class-path?
>>> * This plugin could be displayed in the new
>>> "Tattletale Eclipse perspective".
>>>
>>> I should ask you if someone is interested to
>>> become a GSoC mentor for this project, to
>>> finish it together?
>>> In this case, I could try implement prototype of
>>> this plugin with basic options as part of the
>>> GSoC proposal evaluation process.
>>> I think I can finish this plugin, and this
>>> project seems as great opportunity to me, first,
>>> to create an useful tool which will be widely
>>> used as part of Eclipse and to gain more
>>> experience in lot of open-source tools.
>>> Please, feel free to ask if you have any
>>> questions, Any comment or suggestions is
>>> appriciated.
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Dejan Simeonov
>>>
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