Hi Lincoln, folks!<div><br></div><div>Sure I will help. However, I wonder a couple of things:</div><div><br></div><div>1) What do you mean by hanging? Yes, Forge takes some 5-10 seconds to start, but it finally starts. So do you aim at ~2 seconds start or maybe at Koen's and Richard's computers it never starts at all</div>
<div><br></div><div>2) When I start the debug session, should I put somewhere breakpoints? If yes, where?</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Ivan</div><div><br></div><div>P.S. Sorry, but I'll do that tomorrow! Today is St. Nicolas's day here in Bulgaria (and I believe in the whole Christian world) and right now I am celebrating with a friend of mine his name's day ;-)<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Lincoln Baxter, III <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lincolnbaxter@gmail.com">lincolnbaxter@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Awesome, thanks koen.<br><br>Ivan,<br><br>Could I ask you a favor? Could you follow the debugging instructions in FORGE-400 (comments) and try to find our where Forge is hanging at runtime? This would help me a *lot* since I cannot get access to an XP machine right now.<br>
<br>~Lincoln<div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:44 AM, Koen Aers <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com" target="_blank">koen.aers@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I have created <a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/FORGE-400" target="_blank">https://issues.jboss.org/browse/FORGE-400</a>.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Koen<br>
<br>
Op 6-dec.-2011, om 09:20 heeft Richard Kennard het volgende geschreven:<br>
<div><div><br>
>> on Windows 7: run hangs right after startup<br>
><br>
> Yes, I can confirm this.<br>
><br>
> Richard.<br>
><br>
> On 6/12/2011 6:16 PM, Koen Aers wrote:<br>
>> This is very strange. I didn't go into the details but while running the tests on XP I had to use the "line.separator" property because the output in the<br>
>> test contained "\r\n" and not "\n".<br>
>> I'm confused now…<br>
>><br>
>> Btw, I don't know what's happening but I can's seem to build trunk on any other platform than OSX.<br>
>><br>
>> - on XP: build as well as run hang<br>
>> - on Windows 7: build fails with compilation error, run hangs right after startup<br>
>> - on Fedora 16: build fails with (another) compilation error, run is ok<br>
>><br>
>> I tried the runs with a snapshot build that I did on OSX. I'll create a JIRA issue to track these problems.<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>> Koen<br>
>><br>
>> Op 5-dec.-2011, om 22:24 heeft Ivan St. Ivanov het volgende geschreven:<br>
>><br>
>>> Hi folks,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Richard, thanks a lot for the hint! After downloading the latest version my source compiles.<br>
>>><br>
>>> However, now I get an error in the test: JavaClassTest::testFormattingIsNotChanged. The problem is in the asserts that check whether the output contains<br>
>>> Telephone + line.separator + {. The next assert, which also has the line.separator inside, fails too. I am running on Windows. And there line.separator<br>
>>> is \r\n. However, in the output we get just \n. Which is fine on Mac or UNIX.<br>
>>><br>
>>> If I change the asserts like this (replace line.separator with \n):<br>
>>><br>
>>> assertTrue(output.contains(<br>
>>> "Telephone\n{"));<br>
>>> assertTrue(output.contains(<br>
>>> ")\n {"));<br>
>>><br>
>>> ...it works on Windows.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Of course it's better to fix this in the code, but I saw that the toString method uses the stuff from Eclipse (org.eclipse.jface.text.Document,<br>
>>> org.eclipse.text.edits.TextEdit, org.eclipse.jdt.core.dom.CompilationUnit). So I'm not sure whether we can do anything there. Unless some of you has<br>
>>> commit permissions in Eclipse or my observations are wrong :-)<br>
>>><br>
>>> What do you think?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Cheers!<br>
>>> Ivan<br>
>>><br>
>>> P.S. If I change the test like above (with \n instead of line.separator), the maven build is successful<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Richard Kennard <<a href="mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com" target="_blank">richard@kennardconsulting.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com" target="_blank">richard@kennardconsulting.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Ivan,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Apologies. Forge is currently building against a Metawidget snapshot, and that snapshot is still changing. You will need to pull the latest Forge<br>
>>> build in<br>
>>> order to get the changes (HtmlTableLayout has become HtmlPanelGridLayout).<br>
>>><br>
>>> Regards,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Richard.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 5/12/2011 1:58 AM, Ivan St. Ivanov wrote:<br>
>>>> Hi guys!<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I did not pull or merge anything since my last successful build (or at least I think so). And now I have a compilation problem:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> [ERROR] \projects\seamforge\core\scaffold-faces\src\main\java\org\jboss\forge\scaffold\faces\FacesScaffold.java:[87,60]<br>
>>>> cannot find symbol<br>
>>>> symbol : class HtmlTableLayout<br>
>>>> location: package org.metawidget.statically.faces.component.html.layout<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> [ERROR] \projects\seamforge\core\scaffold-faces\src\main\java\org\jboss\forge\scaffold\faces\FacesScaffold.java:[354,48]<br>
>>>> cannot find symbol<br>
>>>> symbol : class HtmlTableLayout<br>
>>>> location: class org.jboss.forge.scaffold.faces.FacesScaffold<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The HtmlTableLayout class is in the org.metawidget.statically.faces.component.html.layout package coming from the<br>
>>> org.metawidget.modules/metawidget-all<br>
>>>> dependency (version 1.35-SNAPSHOT). There is really no such class in the metawidget library. I went on to check the jboss maven repository. The class<br>
>>>> HTMLTableLayout Indeed existed in older versions of the jar. However, it's not there in latest ones (those after 1st December).<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Does anybody else have the same problem?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Thanks,<br>
>>>> Ivan<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Koen Aers <<a href="mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com" target="_blank">koen.aers@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com" target="_blank">koen.aers@gmail.com</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com" target="_blank">koen.aers@gmail.com</a><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com" target="_blank">koen.aers@gmail.com</a>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> After fixing the failing test on XP, another problem shows up…<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The test 'ValidationFacetTest' in 'forge-javaee-impl' hangs while initializing the fixture.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> More in detail, the call 'beanManager.fireEvent(new Startup())' in the 'beforeTest()' method of the class 'SingletonAbstractShellTest.java' never<br>
>>>> returns.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I have no clue as to what might be the cause of this. Any suggestions welcome.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Cheers,<br>
>>>> Koen<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Op 1-dec.-2011, om 09:15 heeft Ivan St. Ivanov het volgende geschreven:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> Hi,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I does hang for ~5 seconds. Not sure if that is problematic. But Beta 3 has the same behavior.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Once it is started I don't see any delays (created new project, setup persistence, added an entity and a field).<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Cheers!<br>
>>>>> Ivan<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Richard Kennard <<a href="mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com" target="_blank">richard@kennardconsulting.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com" target="_blank">richard@kennardconsulting.com</a>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com" target="_blank">richard@kennardconsulting.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com" target="_blank">richard@kennardconsulting.com</a>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> But does it run okay? For me, it kept hanging at the command prompt after I typed 'bin/forge'.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Richard.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On 1/12/2011 10:08 AM, Ivan St. Ivanov wrote:<br>
>>>>>> Maven build is successful on Windows 7 :-)<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Keith Babo <<a href="mailto:kbabo@redhat.com" target="_blank">kbabo@redhat.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:kbabo@redhat.com" target="_blank">kbabo@redhat.com</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:kbabo@redhat.com" target="_blank">kbabo@redhat.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:kbabo@redhat.com" target="_blank">kbabo@redhat.com</a>>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:kbabo@redhat.com" target="_blank">kbabo@redhat.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:kbabo@redhat.com" target="_blank">kbabo@redhat.com</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:kbabo@redhat.com" target="_blank">kbabo@redhat.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:kbabo@redhat.com" target="_blank">kbabo@redhat.com</a>>>>><br>
>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> You could always spin up a job on the JBoss Jenkins server to build this on Windows for you ….<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On Nov 30, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Lincoln Baxter, III wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Hey Koen,<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Could I ask you to look in to this? I am not at a place where I have access to windows, and I don't see that error on OSX.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Thanks!<br>
>>>>>>> ~Lincoln<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Koen Aers <<a href="mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com" target="_blank">koen.aers@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com" target="_blank">koen.aers@gmail.com</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com" target="_blank">koen.aers@gmail.com</a><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com" target="_blank">koen.aers@gmail.com</a>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com" target="_blank">koen.aers@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com" target="_blank">koen.aers@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com" target="_blank">koen.aers@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com" target="_blank">koen.aers@gmail.com</a>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> I was able to build, test and run without issues on OSX. On Windows (XP) the build stopped after the following failing test. I didn't<br>
>>>>>>> investigate any further.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Cheers,<br>
>>>>>>> Koen<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
>>>>>>> Test set: org.jboss.forge.test.parser.java.JavaClassTest<br>
>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
>>>>>>> Tests run: 25, Failures: 1, Errors: 0, Skipped: 0, Time elapsed: 0.078 sec <<< FAILURE!<br>
>>>>>>> testFormattingIsNotChanged(org.jboss.forge.test.parser.java.JavaClassTest) Time elapsed: 0.015 sec <<< FAILURE!<br>
>>>>>>> java.lang.AssertionError:<br>
>>>>>>> at org.junit.Assert.fail(Assert.java:91)<br>
>>>>>>> at org.junit.Assert.assertTrue(Assert.java:43)<br>
>>>>>>> at org.junit.Assert.assertTrue(Assert.java:54)<br>
>>>>>>> at org.jboss.forge.test.parser.java.JavaClassTest.testFormattingIsNotChanged(JavaClassTest.java:77)<br>
>>>>>>> at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)<br>
>>>>>>> at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)<br>
>>>>>>> at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)<br>
>>>>>>> at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)<br>
>>>>>>> at org.junit.runners.model.FrameworkMethod$1.runReflectiveCall(FrameworkMethod.java:44)<br>
>>>>>>> at org.junit.internal.runners.model.ReflectiveCallable.run(ReflectiveCallable.java:15)<br>
>>>>>>> at org.junit.runners.model.FrameworkMethod.invokeExplosively(FrameworkMethod.java:41)<br>
>>>>>>> at org.junit.internal.runners.statements.InvokeMethod.evaluate(InvokeMethod.java:20)<br>
>>>>>>> at org.junit.internal.runners.statements.RunBefores.evaluate(RunBefores.java:28)<br>
>>>>>>> at org.junit.runners.BlockJUnit4ClassRunner.runChild(BlockJUnit4ClassRunner.java:76)<br>
>>>>>>> at org.junit.runners.BlockJUnit4ClassRunner.runChild(BlockJUnit4ClassRunner.java:50)<br>
>>>>>>> at org.junit.runners.ParentRunner$3.run(ParentRunner.java:193)<br>
>>>>>>> at org.junit.runners.ParentRunner$1.schedule(ParentRunner.java:52)<br>
>>>>>>> at org.junit.runners.ParentRunner.runChildren(ParentRunner.java:191)<br>
>>>>>>> at org.junit.runners.ParentRunner.access$000(ParentRunner.java:42)<br>
>>>>>>> at org.junit.runners.ParentRunner$2.evaluate(ParentRunner.java:184)<br>
>>>>>>> at org.junit.runners.ParentRunner.run(ParentRunner.java:236)<br>
>>>>>>> at org.apache.maven.surefire.junit4.JUnit4TestSet.execute(JUnit4TestSet.java:59)<br>
>>>>>>> at org.apache.maven.surefire.suite.AbstractDirectoryTestSuite.executeTestSet(AbstractDirectoryTestSuite.java:115)<br>
>>>>>>> at org.apache.maven.surefire.suite.AbstractDirectoryTestSuite.execute(AbstractDirectoryTestSuite.java:102)<br>
>>>>>>> at org.apache.maven.surefire.Surefire.run(Surefire.java:180)<br>
>>>>>>> at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)<br>
>>>>>>> at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)<br>
>>>>>>> at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)<br>
>>>>>>> at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)<br>
>>>>>>> at org.apache.maven.surefire.booter.SurefireBooter.runSuitesInProcess(SurefireBooter.java:350)<br>
>>>>>>> at org.apache.maven.surefire.booter.SurefireBooter.main(SurefireBooter.java:1021)<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Richard Kennard <<a href="mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com" target="_blank">richard@kennardconsulting.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com" target="_blank">richard@kennardconsulting.com</a>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com" target="_blank">richard@kennardconsulting.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com" target="_blank">richard@kennardconsulting.com</a>>><br>
>>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com" target="_blank">richard@kennardconsulting.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com" target="_blank">richard@kennardconsulting.com</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com" target="_blank">richard@kennardconsulting.com</a><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com" target="_blank">richard@kennardconsulting.com</a>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Lincoln,<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> The build seems to run, and there are no lingering test failures, but on Windows the distribution fails to start up? It just hangs at the<br>
>>>>>>> command prompt,<br>
>>>>>>> without printing 'Forge' in ASCII text or anything. It appears to be waiting for keyboard input, as if I press ENTER the cursor moves down<br>
>>>>>>> once, but then<br>
>>>>>>> it too stops.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> I have grown so used to Forge telling me I'm an idiot for running Windows, but now it won't even do that :)<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Regards,<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Richard.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> On 30/11/2011 9:07 PM, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>> What was the problem in the end ?<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> My guess was a memory leak in forge or the testsuite - did I win ?<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> /max<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2011, at 22:16, Lincoln Baxter, III wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> Please feel free to run the full build on any operating system, without the aggravation of lingering test failures!<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>>>> Lincoln Baxter, III<br>
>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://ocpsoft.com" target="_blank">http://ocpsoft.com</a> <<a href="http://ocpsoft.com/" target="_blank">http://ocpsoft.com/</a>> <<a href="http://ocpsoft.com/" target="_blank">http://ocpsoft.com/</a>> <<a href="http://ocpsoft.com/" target="_blank">http://ocpsoft.com/</a>><br>
>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://scrumshark.com" target="_blank">http://scrumshark.com</a> <<a href="http://scrumshark.com/" target="_blank">http://scrumshark.com/</a>> <<a href="http://scrumshark.com/" target="_blank">http://scrumshark.com/</a>> <<a href="http://scrumshark.com/" target="_blank">http://scrumshark.com/</a>><br>
>>>>>>>>> "Keep it Simple"<br>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>>>>>>> forge-dev mailing list<br>
>>>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">forge-dev@lists.jboss.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">forge-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">forge-dev@lists.jboss.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">forge-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">forge-dev@lists.jboss.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">forge-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">forge-dev@lists.jboss.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">forge-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev</a><br>
>>>>>>>> /max<br>
>>>>>>>> <a href="http://about.me/maxandersen" target="_blank">http://about.me/maxandersen</a><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>>>>>> forge-dev mailing list<br>
>>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">forge-dev@lists.jboss.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">forge-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">forge-dev@lists.jboss.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">forge-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>>><br>
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>>>>>>>> <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev</a><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>>>>> forge-dev mailing list<br>
>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">forge-dev@lists.jboss.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">forge-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">forge-dev@lists.jboss.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">forge-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>>><br>
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>>>>>>> <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev</a><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>>>>> forge-dev mailing list<br>
>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">forge-dev@lists.jboss.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">forge-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">forge-dev@lists.jboss.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">forge-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">forge-dev@lists.jboss.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">forge-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">forge-dev@lists.jboss.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">forge-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>>>><br>
>>>>>>> <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev</a><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>> Lincoln Baxter, III<br>
>>>>>>> <a href="http://ocpsoft.com" target="_blank">http://ocpsoft.com</a> <<a href="http://ocpsoft.com/" target="_blank">http://ocpsoft.com/</a>> <<a href="http://ocpsoft.com/" target="_blank">http://ocpsoft.com/</a>> <<a href="http://ocpsoft.com/" target="_blank">http://ocpsoft.com/</a>><br>
>>>>>>> <a href="http://scrumshark.com" target="_blank">http://scrumshark.com</a> <<a href="http://scrumshark.com/" target="_blank">http://scrumshark.com/</a>> <<a href="http://scrumshark.com/" target="_blank">http://scrumshark.com/</a>> <<a href="http://scrumshark.com/" target="_blank">http://scrumshark.com/</a>><br>
>>>>>>> "Keep it Simple"<br>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
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