On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 01:27, Jason Porter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lightguard.jp@gmail.com">lightguard.jp@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hey Dan, you're about an hour late to the party :) we've been discussing and Eichard has given me some info and code to look at and read through.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Cool. I just wanted to make sure I made the discussion public.</div>
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As for the non dep idea, I can certainly understand where Lincoln and Pete are coming from. I do wonder though if that would preclude us from creating a CDI extension for rolling our own simple CRUD framework perhaps with an spi for future expansion. That be a bit much though. At any rate I need to go through the stuff Richard has sent me and give some feedback.<br>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>First, I want to acknowledge that Richard is working with requirements that specify no deps. Being reminded of that, the design in the scaffolding makes sense. So I don't mean to question your choice in working within that requirement.</div>
<div><br></div><div>My personal viewpoint, which I recognize may have no relevance, is that this is an extreme requirement. So I'm challenging the requirement, not the implementation :)</div><div><br></div><div>I think the goal to make a pure Java EE application is absurd. If anything, it reveals the shortcomings and verbosity in Java EE 6 more than it shows how great it is. I get that we don't want to inflate the project with libraries, but to say that you can't have a single JAR file extra from Java EE, well, I just don't buy it.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I *suppose* we can have multiple providers. Either way, as Richard said, Java EE 6 needs a decent CRUD and Query framework and whether it goes into the default Forge scaffolding or not, 99% of developers are going to want to use it if it's available.</div>
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