...which is pretty consistent with my point as well. It's too over-engineered (as are the arguments as to why it isn't) for low-level containers. But the need (to live in this world) is nothing a layer of abstraction can't satiate :)<br>
<br>-Dan<br><br>On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 6:13 PM, JFlower <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fiorenzino@gmail.com" target="_blank">fiorenzino@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
i remember this post:<div><br></div><div><span style="line-height:20px;font-family:'Lucida Sans',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">I've rarely in my life met a more overengineered, overcomplex spec than OSGi. Compatibility with OSGi should be an anti-requirement in any sane world. <br>
Unfortunately we live in this world :-(</span></div><div><font face="Lucida Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="line-height:20px"><br></span></font></div><div>Gavin King</div><div><br></div><div>[<a href="http://in.relation.to/22155.lace" target="_blank">http://in.relation.to/22155.lace</a>]</div>
<div><br></div><div>Fiorenzo</div><div><br></div><div>PS i never used osgi in my jee apps, and i hate my eclipse when i need to restart it after a plugin installation...</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/9/25 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ggastald@redhat.com" target="_blank">ggastald@redhat.com</a>></span><br>
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Hello,<br>
<br>
I've been done some thinking and researching for Forge 2.0 based on
the last forge meeting we had and the current code in the 2.0
branch, and it seems that the architecture we're looking for is very
close to OSGi architecture itself (regarding to plugability and
modularity). <br>
<br>
I'm also afraid that we'll face the same problems that OSGi tries to
solve. As my current experience with OSGi is next to minimal (and
probably to better understand why and have some arguments if someone
asks me about it), I would like some opinions about the
advantages/disadvantages of why not having the Forge container as an
OSGi compliant solution. <br>
<br>
Also, don't get me wrong: I am not trying to convince anyone of
using OSGi into the forge core, just want to understand better why
this architecture is not a viable solution so far. I know Lincoln is
against using it, but I just want some arguments in case someone
asks me in conferences and stuff :)<br>
<br>
Of course, we need to keep using CDI and annotations as well. So if
it's possible to have that and at the same time the modularity (and
plugability) offered by OSGi, it would be awesome.<br>
<br>
Looking forward for your answers !<br>
<br>
Best Regards,<span><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
-- <br>
<div><b>George Gastaldi</b> | <i>Senior
Software Engineer</i> <br>
JBoss Forge Team<br>
Red Hat<br>
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