<div dir="ltr">To address your concerns, Antonio. Perhaps you are right, and we should forget about the UI commands provided with scaffold. Scaffold could merely become the set of APIs that make it easier to develop and "generate" web framework code for users.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Antonio Goncalves <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:antonio.mailing@gmail.com" target="_blank">antonio.mailing@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Sorry to bring that again, but, as a user, I don't see any difference between code generation and scaffolding... so I don't understand why there are several projects. If I want to create a n-tier architecture app with a JSF and REST interface I would :<div>
<br></div><div><font face="courier new, monospace">jpa-generate-entities-from-db</font></div><div><font face="courier new, monospace">rest-generate-entdpoints-from-entity</font></div><div><font face="courier new, monospace">jsf-generate-pages-from-entity<br>
</font></div><div><br></div><div>If I want to add a transactional EJB tier I would :</div><div><br></div><div><font face="courier new, monospace">jpa-generate-entities-from-db</font></div><div><font face="courier new, monospace">ejb-generate-services-from-entity</font></div>
<div><div><font face="courier new, monospace">rest-generate-entdpoints-from-service</font></div><div><font face="courier new, monospace">jsf-generate-pages-from-service<br></font></div></div><div><br></div><div>And if I want to see what an Angular front end looks like compare to JSF, I would :</div>
<div><br></div><div><font face="courier new, monospace">angular-generate-pages-from-service</font></div><div><br></div><div>Or if I quickly want to generate an Angular app from entities, I would : </div><div><br></div><div>
<div><font face="courier new, monospace">angular-generate-pages-from-entity</font></div></div><div><br></div><div>I remember talking to Vineet and he had this idea of "you generate code" and you "scaffold an entire project". If that could be the case, then we would : </div>
<div><br></div><div><font face="courier new, monospace">scaffold-ntier-architecture-from-db</font></div><div><br></div><div>or </div><div><br></div><div><div><font face="courier new, monospace">scaffold-thin-client-from-db</font></div>
</div><div><font face="courier new, monospace">....</font></div><div><br></div><div>My 2 cents</div><div>Antonio</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-02-10 13:15 GMT+01:00 George Gastaldi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ggastald@redhat.com" target="_blank">ggastald@redhat.com</a>></span>:<div><div class="h5"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Exactly, I think I wasn't clear at first. Sorry about the confusion.<div><div><br>
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<div>On 10-02-2014 10:14, Ivan St. Ivanov
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<div dir="ltr">Sorry, George, didn't get your original intention!
You plan for generating a scaffolding provider, not for
scaffold[ed] project. My bad!</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 2:13 PM, George
Gastaldi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ggastald@redhat.com" target="_blank">ggastald@redhat.com</a>></span>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi Ivan,<br>
<br>
I'd expect it to generate a Maven project with a basic
implementation of the
org.jboss.forge.addon.scaffold.spi.ScaffoldProvider
interface and also depending on the templates addon (with
some basic templates available - perhaps JSF) . The idea
is to that this generated addon project could be installed
and used without modifications.
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<div dir="ltr">Hi George,
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<div>What would you expect for this project type
to generate besides the packaging type and maybe
a couple of dependencies? Is this something like
project-new-project+scaffold-setup?</div>
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<div>BTW, not sure whether this is the right
thread for the question: scaffold setup command
is not available to my project, even though my
~/.forge/addons directory contains all the
necessary scaffold jars.</div>
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<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>Ivan</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at
12:02 PM, Vineet Reynolds Pereira <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vpereira@redhat.com" target="_blank">vpereira@redhat.com</a>></span>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
Yeah, it might make sense. A bit too early to
say if we need a scaffold project type in the
New Project wizard.<br>
<br>
We might support creation of new scaffold
providers (like Aerogear) that extend existing
scaffold providers (AngularJS),<br>
and I'm not sure if this can be supported via
the wizard. Maybe it is better to revisit this
once we've stabilized the programming model
for scaffold providers sufficiently, to limit
rewriting this wizard.<br>
<span><font color="#888888"><br>
Vineet<br>
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> > I noticed an increasing demand
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