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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hello<br>
      <br>
      Finally I have time to start the discussion about the use of Maven
      Archetypes in both JBoss Fuse and JBoss Fabric.<br>
      <br>
      Here are the links to relevant issues:<br>
       - <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/FORGE-273">https://issues.jboss.org/browse/FORGE-273</a><br>
       - <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/fabric8io/fabric8/issues/1091">https://github.com/fabric8io/fabric8/issues/1091</a><br>
      <br>
      Currently we have (here:
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/fabric8io/fabric8/blob/master/tooling/camel-tooling-util/src/main/java/io/fabric8/camel/tooling/util/ArchetypeHelper.java">https://github.com/fabric8io/fabric8/blob/master/tooling/camel-tooling-util/src/main/java/io/fabric8/camel/tooling/util/ArchetypeHelper.java</a>)
      a helper which can unpack maven archetype and correctly replace
      ${VAR} variables in archetype resources.<br>
      <br>
      Let's first say what we want to achieve. I'd say (please provide
      comments if I misunderstood something):<br>
      Basic:<br>
       - to be able to unpack any Maven Archetype JAR and create working
      ("mvn clean install"able) project in FileSystem <b>without</b>
      using Maven archetype-related libraries<br>
       - to be able to replace variables in archetype resources<br>
       - to be able to evaluate Velocity expressions (they may be
      present in the archetypes)<br>
      Discovery:<br>
       - to be able to read list of available archetypes<br>
       - to be able to discover available archetypes and create the
      above list (explicit distinction to free ourselves from finding
      the archetypes in M2_REPO each time)<br>
      Help:<br>
       - to be able to discover archetype parameters (this is the main
      goal - to make something more user/tab-completion friendly than
      "mvn archetype:create" with millions of options)<br>
       - to provide commands (Karaf/Gogo or JBoss Forge) for project
      creation<br>
       - to ask users (GUI? Console? Hawt.io?) for required
      archetype:create params<br>
      <br>
      OK. I'd like to start a project (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/forge/">https://github.com/forge/</a> or
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/fusesource/">https://github.com/fusesource/</a> or <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/jboss/">https://github.com/jboss/</a> or
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/jboss-fuse/">https://github.com/jboss-fuse/</a> - any suggestions?) which will do
      most of the above and will be a foundation of:<br>
       - karaf/fabric command<br>
       - Forge addon(?)<br>
      <br>
      Any suggestions?<br>
      <br>
      ---<br>
      regards<br>
      Grzegorz Grzybek<br>
      <br>
      <br>
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cite="mid:CAEp_U4HO2VK9wEBTOBcNs+ZE6v-RrMbn1uX6dUvyKej5G28URA@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">That sounds good. Please post to <a
          moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org">forge-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>
        when you want help getting this rolling!</div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">
          On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:10 AM, James Strachan <span
            dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:jstracha@redhat.com" target="_blank">jstracha@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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            <div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hey :) 
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>
                <div>
                  <div>The scala code is ported to Java now; why don’t
                    we get the little ‘project creator’ command in
                    fabric8 working; then when its there, we could post
                    it to the forge list to see about
                    including/sharing/reusing the same stuff there too?</div>
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                    <div class="h5">
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                      <div>On 21 May 2014, at 12:33, Grzegorz Grzybek
                        &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:ggrzybek@redhat.com"
                          target="_blank">ggrzybek@redhat.com</a>&gt;
                        wrote:</div>
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
                          <div>Hello - sorry I couldn't start the
                            discussion... But I still remember that it's
                            quite important ;)<br>
                            <br>
                            regards<br>
                            Grzegorz Grzybek<br>
                          </div>
                          <blockquote type="cite">
                            <div dir="ltr">I think that sounds like a
                              good idea. If we can consume this as a
                              library, it would make things very easy to
                              implement. It would also probably give you
                              guys a migration path so you don't
                              immediately have to jump to Forge on drop
                              0.
                              <div> <br>
                              </div>
                              <div>Forge has a number of ways of
                                locating resources, we can come up with
                                a nice pattern for this :)</div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>Shall we move this discussion to <a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org"
                                  target="_blank">forge-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>
                                or #forge on <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="http://irc.freenode.net/"
                                  target="_blank">irc.freenode.net</a>
                                and get started?</div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>~Lincoln</div>
                            </div>
                            <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                              <br>
                              <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 15,
                                2014 at 3:13 AM, James Strachan <span
                                  dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:jstracha@redhat.com"
                                    target="_blank">jstracha@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                wrote:<br>
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                                  <div style="word-wrap:break-word">Yeah,
                                    we might wanna polish the archetype
                                    generator code into its own
                                    jar/bundle thats got minimal
                                    dependencies &amp; is easier to use
                                    stand alone (so it could be more
                                    easily consumed from inside Forge).
                                    <div> <br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>For the ‘create project’
                                      command/plugin I figured we’d
                                      discover the available archetypes
                                      on the classpath somehow; in Fuse
                                      IDE (the Fuse/Camel plugins now in
                                      JBDS) we just did a bit of code
                                      generation to put the archetype
                                      jars inside the plugin.  Something
                                      a bit more extensible, eventually,
                                      might be nice for Forge; though
                                      for fabric8 just having a curated
                                      list of archetypes from the
                                      fabric8 project itself will be
                                      fine for us for a while ;)</div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>On 15 May 2014, at 08:03,
                                          Grzegorz Grzybek &lt;<a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="mailto:ggrzybek@redhat.com"
                                            target="_blank">ggrzybek@redhat.com</a>&gt;

                                          wrote:</div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div>
                                            <blockquote type="cite">
                                              <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"
                                                text="#000000">
                                                <div>Hello!<br>
                                                </div>
                                                <blockquote type="cite">
                                                  Awesome,
                                                  thanks Grzegorz!
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>BTW a bit of
                                                    background for you,
                                                    sorry I should have
                                                    said - there’s been
                                                    discussions in the
                                                    past of adding a
                                                    nice ability to
                                                    create new projects
                                                    from archetypes
                                                    nicely into JBoss
                                                    Forge:</div>
                                                  <div><a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/FORGE-273" target="_blank">https://issues.jboss.org/browse/FORGE-273</a></div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div><a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://forge.jboss.org/" target="_blank">http://forge.jboss.org/</a></div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>the mvn command
                                                    line to generate
                                                    archetypes isn’t
                                                    awesome ;) and we
                                                    could curate a nice
                                                    default set with
                                                    auto-completion of
                                                    all the known jboss
                                                    archetypes from our
                                                    projects (and maybe
                                                    have a nice little
                                                    way to filter them
                                                    by tag/project
                                                    name/tech etc) with
                                                    tab completion etc</div>
                                                </blockquote>
                                                Thanks for links - so
                                                another item on my TODO
                                                list ;)<br>
                                                I'll think about how to
                                                make it easier both for
                                                Forge and commands
                                                inside Fabric8.<br>
                                                <br>
                                                regards<br>
                                                Grzegorz<br>
                                                <blockquote type="cite">
                                                  <div><br>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div>On 15 May
                                                        2014, at 07:55,
                                                        Grzegorz Grzybek
                                                        &lt;<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ggrzybek@redhat.com" target="_blank">ggrzybek@redhat.com</a>&gt;


                                                        wrote:</div>
                                                      <blockquote
                                                        type="cite">
                                                        <div
                                                          bgcolor="#FFFFFF"
                                                          text="#000000">
                                                          <div>Hello!<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I successfully
                                                          ported
                                                          insight-maven
                                                          stuff from
                                                          Scala (it's
                                                          Maven's Aether
                                                          concept to
                                                          deal with
                                                          repositories).
                                                          But now I'm
                                                          30% in
                                                          camel-tooling-util.
                                                          Scala is not
                                                          really needed
                                                          here and I see
                                                          it has much
                                                          more cons than
                                                          pros!<br>
                                                          I know that
                                                          for Scala
                                                          ninjas this
                                                          language is
                                                          the ultimate
                                                          expression
                                                          tool, but
                                                          reading it
                                                          after few
                                                          years is not
                                                          such a Zen
                                                          experience
                                                          after all.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          As someone
                                                          said - Java8
                                                          is the new
                                                          Java, not
                                                          Scala. Of
                                                          course I don't
                                                          want to
                                                          rewrite all
                                                          this code into
                                                          lambda-spaghetti,
                                                          but good old
                                                          Java6 syntax
                                                          is enough :)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          And after
                                                          porting
                                                          camel-tooling-util
                                                          back to Java,
                                                          I'll look at <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="https://github.com/fabric8io/fabric8/issues/1091"
target="_blank">https://github.com/fabric8io/fabric8/issues/1091</a>
                                                          which is about
                                                          making
                                                          creating
                                                          projects from
                                                          archetypes
                                                          much easier.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          regards<br>
                                                          Grzegorz<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          Cool; wanna CC
                                                          Grzegorz and
                                                          myself?; am
                                                          hoping at some
                                                          point Grzegorz
                                                          gets the
                                                          chance to port
                                                          the existing
                                                          Archetype
                                                          creation code
                                                          from scala to
                                                          java so its a
                                                          little leaner
                                                          &amp; meaner
                                                          and easier to
                                                          reuse in
                                                          Forge.
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>On 14 May
                                                          2014, at
                                                          20:31, Lincoln
                                                          Baxter, III
                                                          &lt;<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:lincolnbaxter@gmail.com" target="_blank">lincolnbaxter@gmail.com</a>&gt;



                                                          wrote:</div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">Okay
                                                          cool. We'll
                                                          continue to go
                                                          down the
                                                          archetype
                                                          route and see
                                                          if we can get
                                                          that working
                                                          for you guys.
                                                          It would help
                                                          if we had
                                                          someone on
                                                          your team who
                                                          could take
                                                          point on this
                                                          so we can
                                                          assist. Is
                                                          that possible?</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br>
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                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Wed, May 14,
                                                          2014 at 3:29
                                                          PM, James
                                                          Strachan <span
                                                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jstracha@redhat.com" target="_blank">jstracha@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote
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                                                          <div>Ah yeah -
                                                          just chatted
                                                          to Dave; this
                                                          is some gem
                                                          based stuff
                                                          for generating
                                                          projects from
                                                          templates;
                                                          which is cool
                                                          too. We went
                                                          the maven
                                                          archetype
                                                          direction in
                                                          Fuse IDE (now
                                                          the Fuse /
                                                          Camel tooling
                                                          in JBDS) and
                                                          now have lots
                                                          of archetypes
                                                          (both on
                                                          upstream
                                                          projects like
                                                          camel &amp;
                                                          cxf and in
                                                          JBoss Fuse);
                                                          so I’m
                                                          personally
                                                          more keen to
                                                          support
                                                          archetypes
                                                          ASAP; but the
                                                          more tooling
                                                          and options
                                                          the better!
                                                          :) </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>On 14 May
                                                          2014, at
                                                          17:58, Lincoln
                                                          Baxter, III
                                                          &lt;<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:lincolnbaxter@gmail.com" target="_blank">lincolnbaxter@gmail.com</a>&gt;



                                                          wrote:</div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/FORGE-273" target="_blank">https://issues.jboss.org/browse/FORGE-273</a><br>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Also just
                                                          got contacted
                                                          by some people
                                                          from GSS who
                                                          are working on
                                                          fusegen and
                                                          want to merge
                                                          that into
                                                          Forge. Do you
                                                          know anything
                                                          about that?</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Wai Chun
                                                          Hoi, and Dave
                                                          Stanley.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>~Lincoln</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On


                                                          Wed, Apr 16,
                                                          2014 at 11:50
                                                          AM, James
                                                          Strachan <span
                                                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jstracha@redhat.com" target="_blank">jstracha@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote
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                                                          style="margin:0
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                                                          <div
                                                          style="word-wrap:break-word">Sounds



                                                          cool; am
                                                          around until
                                                          about 2-3pm I
                                                          think so late
                                                          morning sounds
                                                          cool.
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>FWIW we
                                                          added an
                                                          archetype
                                                          generator a
                                                          while back
                                                          into eclipse
                                                          so it was easy
                                                          for folks to
                                                          start projects
                                                          &amp; we
                                                          pre-baked all
                                                          our camel/fuse
                                                          archetypes -
                                                          as using the
                                                          maven
                                                          archetype:generate
                                                          command line
                                                          is so utterly
                                                          awful.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Here’s
                                                          the code to
                                                          create an
                                                          archetype from
                                                          the mvn
                                                          coordinates of
                                                          the archetype
                                                          distro:</div>
                                                          <div><a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/fabric8io/fabric8/blob/master/tooling/camel-tooling-util/src/main/scala/io/fabric8/camel/tooling/util/ArchetypeHelper.scala#L45"
target="_blank">https://github.com/fabric8io/fabric8/blob/master/tooling/camel-tooling-util/src/main/scala/io/fabric8/camel/tooling/util/ArchetypeHelper.scala#L45</a><br>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>e.g.
                                                          here’s a test
                                                          case that
                                                          creates a
                                                          bunch of
                                                          archetypes -
                                                          no maven is
                                                          required etc:</div>
                                                          <div><a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/fabric8io/fabric8/blob/master/tooling/camel-tooling-util/src/test/scala/io/fabric8/camel/tooling/util/ArchetypeTest.scala#L29"
target="_blank">https://github.com/fabric8io/fabric8/blob/master/tooling/camel-tooling-util/src/test/scala/io/fabric8/camel/tooling/util/ArchetypeTest.scala#L29</a></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I was
                                                          hoping we
                                                          could cobble
                                                          something like
                                                          this into a
                                                          standard
                                                          command; then
                                                          have nice tab
                                                          completion on
                                                          the list of
                                                          archetypes we
                                                          ship by
                                                          default in
                                                          Forge which
                                                          groks all the
                                                          jboss / fuse /
                                                          apache
                                                          archetypes we
                                                          want to prime
                                                          it with; and
                                                          make it easy
                                                          for folks to
                                                          add/load/configure
                                                          others. e.g.
                                                          JBoss Fuse
                                                          ships with a
                                                          bunch of
                                                          archetypes
                                                          (but they are
                                                          not sync’d to
                                                          maven
                                                          central); so
                                                          it’d be nice
                                                          if all jboss
                                                          products that
                                                          have
                                                          archetypes
                                                          were baked
                                                          into Forge
                                                          (e.g. EAP /
                                                          Fuse / Fuse
                                                          Service Works
                                                          / BRMS etc).</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Hope that
                                                          helps - would
                                                          love to port
                                                          the code to
                                                          plain java ;)
                                                          but I guess
                                                          whats another
                                                          massive jar
                                                          dependency on
                                                          spring-library
                                                          between
                                                          friends ;)</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Anyway -
                                                          hope to see
                                                          you around
                                                          this morning.
                                                          Go Errai! :) 
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>On 16 Apr
                                                          2014, at
                                                          02:52, Lincoln
                                                          Baxter, III
                                                          &lt;<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:lincolnbaxter@gmail.com" target="_blank">lincolnbaxter@gmail.com</a>&gt;



                                                          wrote:</div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">Let's



                                                          talk about
                                                          this tomorrow
                                                          (today.) I'll
                                                          be over at the
                                                          conference in
                                                          the late
                                                          morning. And
                                                          I'll be at the
                                                          hack-fest.<br
                                                          clear="all">
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          -- <br>
                                                          Lincoln
                                                          Baxter, III<br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ocpsoft.org/" target="_blank">http://ocpsoft.org</a><br>
                                                          "Simpler is
                                                          better." </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          </div>
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                                                          href="http://macstrac.blogspot.com/"
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                                                          </span> </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br
                                                          clear="all">
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          -- <br>
                                                          Lincoln
                                                          Baxter, III<br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ocpsoft.org/" target="_blank">http://ocpsoft.org</a><br>
                                                          "Simpler is
                                                          better." </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div> <span
style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;border-spacing:0px">
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                                                          <font
style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:10px;line-height:normal;font-family:Helvetica"
face="Helvetica"><br>
                                                          James</font></div>
                                                          <div
                                                          style="margin:0px;font-size:12px"><font
style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:10px;line-height:normal;font-family:Helvetica"
face="Helvetica">-------</font></div>
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                                                          style="margin:0px">
                                                          <div
                                                          style="margin:0px"><span
style="font-size:10px">Red Hat</span></div>
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                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div
                                                          style="margin:0px"><span
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Twitter:



                                                          @jstrachan</span><br
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moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jstracha@redhat.com"
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target="_blank">jstracha@redhat.com</a><br
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moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://macstrac.blogspot.com/"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"
target="_blank">http://macstrac.blogspot.com/</a><br
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
                                                          <br
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
                                                          <span
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">hawtio: </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://fusesource.com/"
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target="_blank">http:/</a><span
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">/</span><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://hawt.io/"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"
target="_blank">hawt.io/</a>
                                                          <div
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">fabric8: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://fusesource.com/"
                                                          style="color:rgb(17,85,204)"
target="_blank">http:/</a>/<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="http://fabric8.io/"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">fabric8.io/</a>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          Open Source
                                                          Integration</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </span> </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br
                                                          clear="all">
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          -- <br>
                                                          Lincoln
                                                          Baxter, III<br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ocpsoft.org/" target="_blank">http://ocpsoft.org</a><br>
                                                          "Simpler is
                                                          better." </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div> <span
                                                          style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px">
                                                          <div
                                                          style="margin:0px;font-size:12px"><font
style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:10px;line-height:normal;font-family:Helvetica"
face="Helvetica"><br>
                                                          James</font></div>
                                                          <div
                                                          style="margin:0px;font-size:12px"><font
style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:10px;line-height:normal;font-family:Helvetica"
face="Helvetica">-------</font></div>
                                                          <div
                                                          style="margin:0px">
                                                          <div
                                                          style="margin:0px"><span
style="font-size:10px">Red Hat</span></div>
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                                                          style="margin:0px"><span
style="font-size:10px"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div
                                                          style="margin:0px"><span
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Twitter:


                                                          @jstrachan</span><br
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style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Email: </span><a
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target="_blank">jstracha@redhat.com</a><br
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target="_blank">http://macstrac.blogspot.com/</a><br
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
                                                          <br
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
                                                          <span
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">hawtio: </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://fusesource.com/"
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target="_blank">http:/</a><span
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">/</span><a
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style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"
target="_blank">hawt.io/</a>
                                                          <div
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">fabric8: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://fusesource.com/"
                                                          style="color:rgb(17,85,204)"
target="_blank">http:/</a>/<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="http://fabric8.io/"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">fabric8.io/</a>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          Open Source
                                                          Integration</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </span> </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <br>
                                                        </div>
                                                      </blockquote>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <div> <span
style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;border-spacing:0px">
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style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:10px;line-height:normal;font-family:Helvetica"
face="Helvetica"><br>
                                                          James</font></div>
                                                        <div
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style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:10px;line-height:normal;font-family:Helvetica"
face="Helvetica">-------</font></div>
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style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Twitter:

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target="_blank">http://macstrac.blogspot.com/</a><br
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
                                                          <br
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style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">hawtio: </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://fusesource.com/"
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target="_blank">http:/</a><span
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style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"
target="_blank">hawt.io/</a>
                                                          <div
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">fabric8: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://fusesource.com/"
                                                          style="color:rgb(17,85,204)"
target="_blank">http:/</a>/<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="http://fabric8.io/"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">fabric8.io/</a>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          Open Source
                                                          Integration</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                        </div>
                                                      </span> </div>
                                                    <br>
                                                  </div>
                                                </blockquote>
                                                <br>
                                              </div>
                                            </blockquote>
                                          </div>
                                          <br>
                                          <div> <span
style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;border-spacing:0px">
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                                                  face="Helvetica"><br>
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style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Twitter:

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                                                    target="_blank">jstracha@redhat.com</a><br
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                                                  <span
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Blog: </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://macstrac.blogspot.com/"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"
                                                    target="_blank">http://macstrac.blogspot.com/</a><br
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style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
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style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">hawtio: </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://fusesource.com/"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"
                                                    target="_blank">http:/</a><span
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">/</span><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://hawt.io/"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"
                                                    target="_blank">hawt.io/</a>
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style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">fabric8: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://fusesource.com/"
                                                      style="color:rgb(17,85,204)"
                                                      target="_blank">http:/</a>/<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://fabric8.io/"
                                                      style="color:rgb(17,85,204)"
                                                      target="_blank">fabric8.io/</a>
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                                                      Open Source
                                                      Integration</div>
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                              -- <br>
                              Lincoln Baxter, III<br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://ocpsoft.org/"
                                target="_blank">http://ocpsoft.org</a><br>
                              "Simpler is better." </div>
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                            James</font></div>
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style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Twitter:
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style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Email: </span><a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
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style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"
                              target="_blank">jstracha@redhat.com</a><br
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
                            <span
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Blog: </span><a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://macstrac.blogspot.com/"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"
                              target="_blank">http://macstrac.blogspot.com/</a><br
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
                            <br
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
                            <span
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">hawtio: </span><a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://fusesource.com/"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"
                              target="_blank">http:/</a><span
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">/</span><a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://hawt.io/"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"
                              target="_blank">hawt.io/</a>
                            <div
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">fabric8: <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://fusesource.com/"
                                style="color:rgb(17,85,204)"
                                target="_blank">http:/</a>/<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://fabric8.io/"
                                style="color:rgb(17,85,204)"
                                target="_blank">fabric8.io/</a>
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                                Open Source Integration</div>
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          </blockquote>
        </div>
        <br>
        <br clear="all">
        <div><br>
        </div>
        -- <br>
        Lincoln Baxter, III<br>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://ocpsoft.org"
          target="_blank">http://ocpsoft.org</a><br>
        "Simpler is better."
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