[Hawkular-dev] Availability metrics: aggregate stats series

Joel Takvorian jtakvori at redhat.com
Tue Aug 30 11:39:09 EDT 2016


I agree that you won't want to mix everything, but you can still adopt some
groupings that are meaningful, for instance group all front-end servers
into a front-end availability series, and all back-ends into another series.

Moreover, once you get all the availability as ratio, it's easy to map to a
binary availability if it's what you're looking for. The REST api will
provide the data, then it's up to you to display what is the most relevant.
I think ratio datapoints is an easy-to-use, yet complete, information.

Joel

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Michael Burman <miburman at redhat.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> So if I have 8 MySQLs, 4 primaries, 4 replicas. One primary is down and
> the replica of that set is down as well. I request Availability of my
> datastore and I get 80% UP. If I had two replicas down instead, I would get
> 80% UP. There's a huge difference in these scenarios.
>
> I'm not a fan of percents for that simple reason. Is my service up? Yes,
> it's 99% up, only all the front-end servers are down.. ugh.
>
>   -  Micke
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Sanda" <jsanda at redhat.com>
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>
> I like the idea of aggregated availabilities, but I don’t know that it can
> easily be simplified to up/down. Let’s say we have 3 Cassandra nodes
> deployed with replication_factor = 1.  If one node goes down we are at 66%
> availability.
>
> > On Aug 29, 2016, at 3:24 AM, Joel Takvorian <jtakvori at redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I'm still aiming to add some features to the grafana plugin. I've
> started to integrate availabilities, but now I'm facing a problem when it
> comes to show aggregated availabilities ; for example think about an
> OpenShift pod that is scaled up to several instances.
> >
> > Since availability is basically "up" or "down" (or, to simplify with the
> other states such as "unknown", say it's either "up" or "non-up"), I
> propose to add this new feature: availability stats with aggregation. The
> call would be parameterized with an aggregation method, which would be
> either "all of" or "any of": with "all of" we consider that the aggregated
> series is UP when all its parts are UP.
> >
> > It would require a new endpoint since the AvailabilityHandler currently
> only expose stats queries with metric id as query parameter - not suitable
> for multiple metrics.
> >
> > Any objection or remark for this feature?
> >
> > Joel
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