[Hawkular-dev] Hawkular Services as Middleware Manager and Ansible

Thomas Heute theute at redhat.com
Tue Nov 29 09:12:48 EST 2016


On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Thomas Heute <theute at redhat.com> wrote:

> I'd like to resume the discussion as how we will enable the following
> features:
>    - Start a server/domain
>    - Find Wildfly servers and instrument them with the agent
> with Ansible in the Middleware Manager ?
>
> I'm questioning the packaging and dependencies, Rubens spent some time a
> while back and we need to resume/conclude:
> https://github.com/hawkular/hawkular-commons/pull/83/files
>
> If I read fast and correctly it seems that:
>    - we have a cyclic dependency(with commons and inventory)
>    - the code should not be in common (actually the whole commands-gateway
> doesn't belong to commons if we consider that commons was supposed to be
> shared among Alert/Metrics/APM/Services)
>    - The playbooks are not part of Hawkular-services so they would be
> added separately ? Or hawkular-services would be less and less generic /
> more and more related to the MW Manager ?
>    - The code is currently specific to Wildfly ? (Would not work for Fuse
> on Karaf or should be modified ?)
>            https://github.com/hawkular/hawkular-commons/pull/83/
> files#diff-dd195df81855017bb54e44d7c140c04fR72
>

Well the whole command-gateway depend on WF anyway, so we would need a
twist for Karaf/JMX based products


>
>
> Note: While I am not directly suggesting Hawkular Services to be more
> specialized as the middleware manager, it may be something we would want.
> Hawkular for Manage IQ (currently hawkular-services) and Hawkular for
> Kubernetes/OpenShift (currently HAM), the first should extend the second so
> that one could just use the first as MW Manager and solution for OpenShift.
> It would simplify development and message.
>
>
> Thomas
>
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