<div dir="ltr">Coming back to my original question - and based on some further thinking and reading of the Hawkular website, I have the following thoughts.<div><br></div><div>On the Hawkular website, it is written:</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">For who ?<br>There are primarly (BTW - this is spelled incorrect) two types of users.<br>Users who wants a toolkit to do server/<b>system monitoring in general, for them we provide a rich REST API to store metrics, trigger alerts</b> and manage an inventory of resources<br>Users who want a full-fledge admin console to monitor and manage middleware servers (Currently, only <a href="http://www.wildfly.org/" style="color:rgb(202,6,18);text-decoration:none;outline:none medium!important;background:0px 0px transparent">WildFly</a> is supported)</blockquote><div class=""><div style="color:rgb(72,72,72);font-family:'Open Sans',sans-serif;font-size:14px"><span style="line-height:19.0909px">I've highlighted the general area that I am most interested - and I think many others would be too.</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(72,72,72);font-family:'Open Sans',sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:19.0909px">Please take a quick look at </span><font color="#484848" face="Open Sans, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px;line-height:19.0909px"><a href="http://martinfowler.com/eaaDev/EventSourcing.html">http://martinfowler.com/eaaDev/EventSourcing.html</a>. Event Sourcing places emphasis on events of interest - in the Shipping example in this link the interesting events are:</span></font></div><div><ul><li><span style="font-size:14px;line-height:19.0909px;color:rgb(72,72,72);font-family:'Open Sans',sans-serif">Ship Arrives</span><br></li><li><span style="font-size:14px;line-height:19.0909px;color:rgb(72,72,72);font-family:'Open Sans',sans-serif">Ship Departs</span><br></li></ul><div><font color="#484848" face="Open Sans, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px;line-height:19.0909px">To be able store (store metrics?) and react (trigger alert) in this example would be very beneficial in many situations. </span></font></div></div><div><font color="#484848" face="Open Sans, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px;line-height:19.0909px"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#484848" face="Open Sans, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px;line-height:19.0909px">I hope this helps to illustrates my use-case. </span></font></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 29 October 2015 at 14:34, Jay Shaughnessy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jshaughn@redhat.com" target="_blank">jshaughn@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<font face="Calibri">Anton, yes, it can be a little confusing. The
Hawkular project is an end-to-end monitoring and management tool
focused on Red Hat software. Today it basically offers a Wildfly
agent for discovering and managing app servers, their hosted apps,
and all of the things that make up those apps. What is can handle
grows with every release. Hawkular leverages a bunch of
components to perform that job. There is HK-Inventory to
represent a network of inventories resources (like an app server,
a datasource, a jvm, etc), HK-Metrics as a Cassandra-backed
time-series store, HK-Alerts as a Drools-backed alerting tool,
HK-Accounts as a KeyCloak backed multi-tenant/auth/authz tool,
HK-Console for UI, HK-Bus for a comm backbone, etc..<br>
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Some of the HK components, namely HK-Metrics and HK-Alerts support
standalone deployment outside of Hawkular. They are named
Hawkular-Metrics and Hawkular-Alerts because they have been
developed as part of the Hawkular project, but they can be used
independently. Hope that helps...<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 29 October 2015 at 14:12, Jay
Shaughnessy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jshaughn@redhat.com" target="_blank">jshaughn@redhat.com</a>></span>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Metrics
and Alerts can both be used outside of the Hawkular
framework so really you can store any metric you like, or
alert on basically any data you like. As for Events, the
next release of Hawkular Alerts (0.6.0) will include a new
Events feature that you may find interesting. Whereas
Alerts are relatively rare, typically involve human
interaction, and run through a simple life-cycle; Events
are likely much more numerous, representing any sort of
happening that a client wants to persist. The interesting
thing about Events in HK-Alerts is that they can be
inserted directly via API or can be generated via Trigger,
like an Alert. And Events can also be used as Trigger
conditions, to contribute to further Alert or Event
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Thanks Jay - this sounds really cool!</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">I have heard a few times now that
hawkular components can be used outside of the hawkular
framework. What exactly is the hawkular framework? As an
outsider I am learning about Hawkular and its features. There
is good documentation on the features, but the underlying
framework, not so much. </div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Also, regarding documentation, I could
not find how to store any 'metric' or data. Specifically, I am
looking to store not just a metric but a pojo.</div>
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