<div dir="ltr">Hawkular App Insight or shorter Hawkular Insight. <div><br></div><div>side note &quot;App&quot; sounds less enterprisy to me than &quot;Application&quot;</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Gary Brown <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:gbrown@redhat.com" target="_blank">gbrown@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Was looking at the wikipedia page for APM: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_performance_management" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_performance_management</a><br>
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Their definition (conceptual framework) includes user defined &#39;business transactions&#39; as well, which fits with the project - so possibly Hawkular APM.<br>
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Although if inclusion of &#39;performance&#39; maybe indicates too much of an IT tool, rather than a tool for IT and Business, then possibly Hawkular App Manager?<br>
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&gt; Extracting some ideas from MiQ.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; They uses the term &quot;Performace&quot; as a wider concept that is focus in the<br>
&gt; health of the system.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; So how it sounds<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;  - Hawkular App Performance<br>
&gt;  - Hawkular Business Performance ?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ----- Mensaje original -----<br>
&gt; &gt; De: &quot;Thomas Heute&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:theute@redhat.com">theute@redhat.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Para: &quot;Discussions around Hawkular development&quot;<br>
&gt; &gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:hawkular-dev@lists.jboss.org">hawkular-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Enviados: Viernes, 27 de Mayo 2016 11:11:19<br>
&gt; &gt; Asunto: Re: [Hawkular-dev] BTM or not BTM, that is the question<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; I would favor a renaming to &quot;Hawkular &lt;Something&gt;&quot; if we had an idea for a<br>
&gt; &gt; name that encapsulate the 3 notions... (I don&#39;t). I agree that BTM is<br>
&gt; &gt; confusing now.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Gary Brown &lt; <a href="mailto:gbrown@redhat.com">gbrown@redhat.com</a> &gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Hi all<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; As discussed in the recent blog (and demo), Hawkular BTM now provides<br>
&gt; &gt; Application Performance Management (APM), Distributed Tracing (DT) and<br>
&gt; &gt; Business Transaction Management (BTM).<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; The project was initially started to address the third area, hence being<br>
&gt; &gt; called BTM - however BTM requires the collection of the information used to<br>
&gt; &gt; provide APM and DT - and providing those other views on the information is<br>
&gt; &gt; useful to users.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Due to the wider scope, just wondering whether the BTM name is now<br>
&gt; &gt; misleading. If a project component rename was considered a good idea, then<br>
&gt; &gt; now would probably be the best time to do it, before getting close to a<br>
&gt; &gt; stable 1.0 version?<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; So two questions:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; 1) Is a component rename a good idea?<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; 2) If so, any suggestions for a name, either some generic term that<br>
&gt; &gt; encapsulates APM, DT and BTM - or alternatively a completely unrelated name<br>
&gt; &gt; (but then it would not follow the pattern used by other Hawkular<br>
&gt; &gt; components).<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Regards<br>
&gt; &gt; Gary<br>
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