<div dir="ltr">Agreed, Hawkular Services need more love, not to disappear.<div><div>It may be renamed to "Hawkular ManageIQ Provider" on the website if that helps with clarity, but shouldn't disappear.</div></div><div><br></div><div>Also there is no quickstart anymore, it's very rough for people.</div><div><br></div><div>We had this:</div><div><a href="http://www.hawkular.org/hawkular-services/docs/quickstart-guide/">http://www.hawkular.org/hawkular-services/docs/quickstart-guide/</a></div><div>Not perfect, but should be improved rather than removed IMO.</div><div><br></div><div>In fact, the whole overview has disappeared:</div><div><a href="http://www.hawkular.org/overview/">http://www.hawkular.org/overview/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Alerting has quickstarts that should be more prominent on the website: <a href="https://github.com/hawkular/hawkular-alerts/blob/master/examples/tutorial/README.adoc">https://github.com/hawkular/hawkular-alerts/blob/master/examples/tutorial/README.adoc</a></div><div><br></div><div>Thomas</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Heiko Rupp <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hrupp@redhat.com" target="_blank">hrupp@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hey,<br>
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On 3 Jul 2017, at 23:42, Stefan Negrea wrote:<br>
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> I waited about 2 weeks to allow enough time for feedback. There was a<br>
> good amount of initial discussion on the document mostly in the form<br>
> of proposals to enhance the initial plan. There were zero negative<br>
> comments and nobody opposed the plan.<br>
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</span>I know I did not chime in on the document, so have no right<br>
to complain now :-)<br>
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I think though that the removal of Hawkular Services is wrong.<br>
It may indeed at the moment only exist for that one consumer,<br>
which is ManageIQ, but not listing it is in my opinion also<br>
confusing. Instead of removing it, we should perhaps better<br>
educate visitors of the web site (in a graphical way?) how this<br>
relates to the other projects.<br>
Similar to Tracing. This is no longer Hawkular APM, so it is right<br>
not to list Hawkular APM, but so far Tracing folks are still under the<br>
Hawkular umbrella and the blog contains a lot of content about it.<br>
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