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<font face="Calibri">No, that is not what I meant. All I am saying
is yes, I agree that we should have a convention for a simple name
tag, but also that adding many tags representing the "path
components" of the metrics' owning resource is a good idea.
Prometheus' query power comes from it's ability to quickly slice and
dice TS based on labels. Our mode is not the same but there can
still be a lot of power in tagQuery given robust tagging.</font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/9/2017 9:56 AM, Joel Takvorian
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<div dir="ltr">I think going toward prom's label, ie. each
possible value of a label IS actually a different metric, would
really be a huge change for us and on the other hand we would
miss our current "tags as meta-data" feature, that prom is
lacking afaik...
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<div>But maybe that was not what you meant? I know "_name" is
like a reserved label in prometheus but for them it has really
a lot of implications.
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<font face="Calibri">I'm fairly sure the Agent already has
a "name" tag or something similar. We definitely need a
convention for this, if not an actual requirement. The
metricName is way too tedious, our use of tags should
work towards Prometheus's use of labels.</font>
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<div dir="ltr">We definitely need to solve that
usability issue, I definitely experienced it in
Grafana.
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<div>For Grafana in particular, I know Prometheus
driver has a "label name" that is defined in
Grafana and can be templatized with metrics
labels. It's purely on Grafana side and only
works for Grafana.</div>
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<div>Having a convention is a quick solution, do
we see it used by Metrics internals or only by
agents and UIs ? Does it need to support
templating with other tags or do we expect the
client to be smarter to tags value change ?</div>
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<div>I would also suggest displayName (or
display_name or else) rather than just name, I
think it's clearer that it's for UI and can
change.</div>
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10:53 AM, Heiko Rupp <span dir="ltr"><<a
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solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>On 9 Aug 2017,
at 8:41, Joel Takvorian wrote:<br>
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> What would you say about having a
convention of a special tag (let's<br>
> say "_name") that would point to a
(short) intelligible name for a<br>
> metric. That convention wouldn't be
mandatory in any case of course,<br>
> but the UI could check if that tag
exists and use that name, instead<br>
> of the full metric id, for better
display.<br>
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</span>Makes sense to me.<br>
We had a displayName in RHQ.<br>
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