[hibernate-dev] Hibernate & Java 5 ?

Scott Marlow smarlow at redhat.com
Tue Dec 1 10:17:40 EST 2009


+1 for java5 and +1 for concurrency improvements that can happen as a 
result.

On 12/01/2009 09:59 AM, Steve Ebersole wrote:
> I guess I have just been waiting until we can actually leverage 1.5
> features (ala utilize enums or expose generics/typing).  That will not
> happen for 3.5.
>
> Now statistics are encapsulated behind a set of interfaces (Statistics
> and StatisticsImplementor).  We could make this alterable like I did for
> JDBC 3/4 based on the JVM.  That would mean reflection code though.
>
> I do not actually know of any real cases of Hiberate being used in 1.4
> environments today.  So maybe we can just make it 1.5 compatible.
>
> Votes?
>
>
> On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 14:38 +0100, Alex Snaps wrote:
>    
>> We've been doing some improvement to the Hibernate statistics at
>> Terracotta, when we realized how much the synchronization on it was
>> impacting throughput in our tests.
>> That is work we wanted to contribute back to you guys, should
>> Hibernate Core be target at 1.5. As it seems that's not yet the case,
>> so there isn't much you guys will be able to do with these changes...
>> We discussed about that at Devoxx with Max and Emmanuel and thought it
>> was okay to have 1.5 impl. of the specs (java.util.concurrent based)
>> already. Apparently not :( What timeframe do you see 1.4 support being
>> dropped?
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Steve Ebersole<steve at hibernate.org>  wrote:
>>      
>>> I have issues reloading Maven-based projects in IntelliJ as well.  I
>>> simply try to minimize the number of times I reload.
>>>
>>> Hibernate is *built* with JDK 1.5, but not all the modules are 1.5
>>> compatible.
>>>
>>> What "statistics work" discussion?  I must have missed that.  But for
>>> sure the hibernate-core module should remain 1.4 compatible.  Dropping
>>> 1.4 support is on the roadmap, but not for 3.5
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 11:32 +0100, Alex Snaps wrote:
>>>        
>>>> Hey,
>>>> Doing a svn update of the Hibernate trunk, I realized I probably had
>>>> changed the project to be Java5 manually as it reverted to 1.4
>>>> (because of some pom.xml change) in IntelliJ.
>>>> Talking to Max and Emmanuel at Devoxx I thought trunk was now to be
>>>> Java 5? Is this not the case after all, or are poms only update when
>>>> the first Java5 language/jdk feature sneaks in?
>>>> As discussed we discussed, all the statistics work heavily rely on
>>>> java.util.concurrent classes, so that is "more or less" important for
>>>> that patch...
>>>> Btw do you guys have a contributor agreement somewhere, I couldn't find it.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> --
>>> Steve Ebersole<steve at hibernate.org>
>>> Hibernate.org
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>
>>
>>      




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