[hibernate-dev] ORM, OGM and timing

[Sanne Grinovero]

Whether we change the standard QueryTranslatorFactory in ORM doesn't
affect the options we have about releasing OGM, correct Emmanuel?

Let's make sure we can release OGM at any time; having Hibernate ORM
using the new parser by default might cleanup some code but I hope we
can make sure this doesn't affecting functionality.

On 5 December 2012 15:44, Steve Ebersole <steve at hibernate.org> wrote:
> I am not completely understanding the question.  You don't *need* Hibernate
> 5, you could just plug in a custom QueryTranslatorFactory as we discussed on
> irc.  The discussion here was changing the standard QueryTranslatorFactory
> to use this new Antlr parser.
>
> On Dec 5, 2012 8:46 AM, "Sanne Grinovero" <sanne at hibernate.org> wrote:
>>
>> Do we need Hibernate 5 to resolve those type system issues?
>>
>> If so, is there an alternative solution which wouldn't necessarily
>> couple the OGM lifecycle with ORM ? (just for the time being)
>>
>>
>> On 4 December 2012 18:19, Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel at hibernate.org> wrote:
>> > Moving to dev mailing list.
>> >
>> > On Tue 2012-12-04 12:09, Steve Ebersole wrote:
>> >> Can we have such discussions on the dev list?
>> >>
>> >> Anyway, that's why I said about developing the parser separately but in
>> >> tandem and synching later.  That gives us that flexibility.
>> >>
>> >> Because it's not been decided that the parser change will even go into
>> >> 5.0...
>> >> On Dec 4, 2012 11:35 AM, "Emmanuel Bernard" <emmanuel at hibernate.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hey guys,
>> >> >
>> >> > Steve and I started a discussion on how to reuse Sanne's work around
>> >> > the
>> >> > new JP-QL parser. The crux of the problem is to be able to reuse the
>> >> > type
>> >> > of a given node in the parser even if Hibernate ORM and Hibernate OGM
>> >> > use a
>> >> > different type system. This looks doable but then the problem of
>> >> > timing
>> >> > arises.
>> >> >
>> >> > With Davide coming onboard, and even more after BV is behind us, I
>> >> > expect
>> >> > OGM to speed up significantly which means we will need to do fast
>> >> > releases.
>> >> > So the question is when are we targeting Hibernate ORM 5 final and
>> >> > does
>> >> > that fit Hibernate OGM's time goals.
>> >> >
>> >> > We have been promising query for ever now and I would hate to have to
>> >> > delay it more than necessary.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thoughts?
>> >> >
>> >> > Emmanuel
>> >> >
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