[hibernate-dev] HSearch 5.0

Sanne Grinovero sanne at hibernate.org
Thu Aug 21 10:46:56 EDT 2014

Agreed, but on free-form as soon as we're advanced enough to know the
API is solid it should not delay further.
Not saying we're there yet though, so we can decide on such matters
when we agree on its stability and risks.


On 21 August 2014 15:42, Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel at hibernate.org> wrote:
> The biggies that I think should be in 5.0 are:
> - free form entity: it opens up a lot of interesting doors closed to us
>   at the moment
> - bridges providing metadata feedback for better optimizations (like
>   which field they store stuff to)
> Both have a risk of API breakage hence the idea of working on them
> before 5.0.
> Multi backend support is probably in that same category but there is no
> way we can deliver this one in a realistic timeframe. Not without a pair
> of extra hands.
> Emmanuel
> On Wed 2014-08-20 10:38, Sanne Grinovero wrote:
>> Hi Marc,
>> we've been slower than expected, apologies from my part as I've been
>> distracted in fixing stuff in a project building on Hibernate Search;
>> in a way that has been good for the project as we nailed some issues
>> in Search, gives us valuable input on performance and validation under
>> high load.
>> Considering holidays & similar, we should be fully focused on Search
>> again next week and first goal is of course to challenge the roadmap
>> and see what can be cut to speedup a 5.0.0.Final release.. However
>> many users are already using the current previews and I am expecting
>> the same from you as you would give us precious feedback as usual ;-)
>> We discussed the release timeframe yesterday during our fortnight IRC
>> meeting; Emmanuel sent the logs to this same list in case you want to
>> see the details
>> (And feel free to join when you can). No date was mentioned, we need
>> to spend a couple of days first to investigate what can be sensibly
>> dropped.
>> We're all agreeing that we should rather move some issues out from the
>> plan and release early; having said that, which features of Lucene 4
>> would you love to see exposed on the API?
>> I also expected many big changes but it turned out we could provide
>> most of it as "under the hood" internal changes; unless I'm missing
>> something the issues still open on JIRA are not expected to make a
>> significant dent on our public API (that is, excluding some changes in
>> defaults and meaning of annotations as discussed previously, but
>> that's not Lucene4 specific).
>> Please open issues about features we should expose, and feel free to
>> suggest a priority. I'll probably defer anything which shouldn't block
>> the 5.0, but it would be very helpful.
>> Cheers,
>> Sanne
>> On 19 August 2014 13:07, Marc Schipperheyn <m.schipperheyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Is there any tentative idea on Hibernate Search 5.0 will come out? It just
>> > feels like progress is extremely slow and when I look at JIRA I keep seeing
>> > issues being added and fixed that seem extremely contextual (WildFly,
>> > improve errorHandler, etc) and nothing to do with the ambition to deliver
>> > the cool new features of Lucene 4 to the masses. I mean, I'm extremely
>> > anxious to work with Lucene 4 like forever, because it brings so much to
>> > the table and it will be great to have that power at your fingertips, but
>> > of course, it would be even greater if that power is brought to the
>> > Hibernate Search API.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Marc
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