[hibernate-dev] Forum changes proposal

[Sanne Grinovero]

On 10 December 2015 at 15:24, Steve Ebersole <steve at hibernate.org> wrote:
> BTW, there is already a hibernate-users mailing list hosted on the JBoss
> Mailman instance.  Back when we moved to JBoss Mailman they used to set up a
> number of lists by default.  We just chose to not really use this one in
> particular.  We could use this one for purpose discussed here.

Yes, that would be nice. I'm registered on that list, and there have
been questions already although they are extremely rare - I recall
something like 3 a year? - probably because I don't think its
existance was ever advertised.

> BTW, I looked into creating a Hibernate SO Team.  Are we thinking one team?
> Or one per project (ORM, OGM, etc)?

Depends on how it works? I do monitor various tags, including
"hibernate", "hibernate-search", "hibernate-ogm" and sometimes do a
cross-check query like "hibernate" + "lucene", although others on our
team often arrive first to answer.

If the intent of the feature is to distribute the load among people to
answer and monitor such tags, then I guess you're not interested in
being notified for the Lucene related ones?

>From what I understand here:
 - http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/307513/the-power-of-teams-a-proposed-expansion-of-stack-overflow

It looks like it's more about showing off our affiliation, and to
create a space were people can ask questions "about the team".
So I'd say a single team unless I misunderstood things.

Sanne

>
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 9:20 AM Steve Ebersole <steve at hibernate.org> wrote:
>>
>> If anyone is unfamiliar with Nabble... Here is the Nabble-ized form of
>> this very mailing list: http://hibernate-development.74578.x6.nabble.com/
>>
>> It looks/works just like a forum.  For mailing-list backed Nabble forums
>> it is read-only in effect, unless you also subscribe to the mailing list.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 7:41 AM Steve Ebersole <steve at hibernate.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You know my thoughts on the forum.   I think forum versus mailing list is
>>> just very much a personal preference.  Some people really like one or the
>>> other. Why not split the middle and use mailing list + nabble?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 10, 2015, 7:35 AM Hardy Ferentschik <hardy at hibernate.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> > > So basically I would suggest:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > - Put the forum into a read only mode
>>>> > > - Add a banner explaining the move to Stackoverflow (similar in
>>>> > > content to what's in the post
>>>> > >   mentioned above)
>>>> > > - Create a Hibernate Team on Stackoverflow
>>>> > > - Make sure all Hibernate related tags and wiki pages are up to date
>>>> > > - Add a "Where-to-post summary" to hibernate.org
>>>> > > - Create a hibernate-discussions mailing list!?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I think we would gain a lot of by this approach.
>>>> >
>>>> > Looks like a solid plan so I captured in
>>>> > https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/WEBSITE-416
>>>>
>>>> Awesome thanks.
>>>>
>>>> > (even though clearly we need some kind of agreement from more people
>>>> > on such a significant change)
>>>>
>>>> Sure, we need a general buy in into this approach.
>>>>
>>>> > It saddens me to see the forum go though.
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes it is just time to say goodbye :-) Keeping it alive would imo
>>>> just reduce the gained benefits (no need to battle spam, no need to
>>>> monitor
>>>> its service and run database rescue operations, no need to use an old
>>>> fashioned
>>>> UI)
>>>>
>>>> > Shouldn't the forum be the place for such discusssions, rather than a
>>>> > new mailing list?
>>>>
>>>> I think a mailing list is better.
>>>>
>>>> Would be interesting to hear what others think.
>>>>
>>>> --Hardy
>>>>
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