[hibernate-dev] "Hibernate Types" project

[Steve Ebersole]

I'm not so sure a single "extras" artifact/module makes the most sense
though.  Since some involve pulling in driver jars - I think (if we do
this) we ought to have `hibernate-extras-base` as well as db-specific
extensions (`hibernate-extras-pgsql`, ...).

We had a similar discussion recently on HipChat or mailing list (can't
remember which exactly)

On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 6:43 AM Sanne Grinovero <sanne at hibernate.org> wrote:

> On 28 September 2017 at 11:39, Gunnar Morling <gunnar at hibernate.org>
> wrote:
> > 2017-09-28 11:28 GMT+02:00 Vlad Mihalcea <mihalcea.vlad at gmail.com>:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> It's because not all database support ARRAY or JSON.
> >>
> >> We've been discussing this on the mailing list (around one year ago)
> and I
> >> remember we concluded that we can only add these types to ORM core
> >> if the vast majority of the Hibernate-supported database offer JSON or
> >> ARRAY.
> >>
> >
> > I see. A separate project/repo under the Hibernate umbrella could be an
> > alternative, too ("Hibernate Extras" or so). I.e. some middle ground
> > between part of ORM proper and fully being 3rd party.
>
> I'd (eventually) aim to include it in the hibernate-orm repository,
> but as a separate jar?
>
> So people can take it or ignore it depending on their needs, yet we
> can all help making sure it keeps working for future releases.
>
> I would not incorporate it into the hibernate-core artifact so that we
> can exclude it from inclusion in e.g. WildFly until we feel it's ready
> for that.
>
> No rush though, I guess it would be easier to wait for some 6.0 branch
> to be stable.
>
> Thanks,
> Sanne
>
> >
> > Also, even if we add support for them, it's improbable that we are going
> to
> >> backport it to 5.1, 5.0, 4.3, 4.2 and 4.1. So, since my blog readers
> >> requested me to provide these types via Maven Central, I decided to
> bundle
> >> them in a new library.
> >>
> >> If more and more databases add support for JSON, we could add support
> for
> >> it in 6.0.
> >> For ARRAY, I doubt that more DBs will support it if they haven't done it
> >> by now.
> >>
> >> Vlad
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 9:47 AM, Gunnar Morling <gunnar at hibernate.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hey Vlad,
> >>>
> >>> I recently learned about your "Hibernate Types" project [1]. It's
> great to
> >>> see support for JSON, arrays, etc!
> >>>
> >>> Out of curiosity, though, why did you decide to make it a separate
> project
> >>> instead of adding these very useful types to Hibernate itself? Seems
> it'd
> >>> be easier for people to us them that way.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> --Gunnar
> >>>
> >>> [1]
> >>> https://vladmihalcea.com/2017/09/25/the-hibernate-types-open
> >>> -source-project-is-born/
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