[hibernate-dev] Chat migration - D minus 115 until the death of HipChat

Yoann Rodiere yoann at hibernate.org
Mon Nov 12 12:26:42 EST 2018


I don't see why we should force people to have a GitHub account,
considering there are other means of logging into Gitter.

As to getting the right type of people, I'm not sure it's relevant. Most
people are likely to have one, and those who don't are likely to not have
one for political reasons (think free software extremists) rather than
because they aren't tech savvy enough: while the "hibernate" naming might
confuse users looking for information about grizzly bears, I doubt my
grandmother, my 7-year-old nephew or even my non-software-engineer of a
wife would end up on Gitter by mistake.


Yoann Rodière
Hibernate NoORM Team
yoann at hibernate.org


On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 at 18:02, Sanne Grinovero <sanne at hibernate.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 at 16:02, Steve Ebersole <steve at hibernate.org> wrote:
> >
> > What is it a conscious decision to not require a GitHub account to join
> these rooms?  I just noticed that is a toggle-option in the room's settings
> also.
>
> I don't remember. We created these rooms as an experiment in 2014..
> Yoann created some more rooms recently.
>
> Should we enforce people to have a Github account? I'd like that, I
> think it would better nudge towards getting the right type of people
> to join.
>
> Thanks,
> Sanne
>
>
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 6:17 AM Guillaume Smet <guillaume.smet at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 11:35 AM Sanne Grinovero <sanne at hibernate.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > If one wants a lot of features then clearly only Slack is the way to
> >> > go. Not saying we should go with Slack, just that we'll need to be
> >> > patient and we'll always be short of some features - if that's not
> >> > acceptable then only Slack will make you happy.
> >> >
> >>
> >> TBH, I don't care about fancy features. Gitter is OK for me but yeah not
> >> having sound is really annoying.
> >>
> >> I might miss notifications from time to time.
> >>
> >> In any case, it will mostly be a problem for you all if you ping me :).
> >>
> >>
> >> > BTW the issue you linked to suggests the native clients don't have
> >> > this specific problem.. might want to try that?
> >> >
> >>
> >> I prefer to have it in the browser where I do most of my interactions
> with
> >> people.
> >>
> >> And AFAIK, Yoann wrote they were only packaged as deb (and not very
> excited
> >> about compiling it).
> >>
> >> BTW, tbh, I'm a bit worried GitLab has only one dev on it if they want
> to
> >> become a player in this area. They certainly have some work to do to
> catch
> >> up with others.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Guillaume
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