[hibernate-dev] Remove or disable the WildFly feature packs of Hibernate ORM?

[Steve Ebersole]

I do not plan on dropping hibernate-osgi.  Its there; it works.  Any
specific reason you say that Yoann?

Brett is the only one to do anything with that "tutorial".  Though as time
went on its focus was more a way to find problems when the paxexam tests
failed - they almost always give useless feedback.  If you think people are
using it as a tutorial then I agree we should remove it or update it.
Depending whether it still has benefit for troubleshooting I'd actually
just clarify its intent somehow rather removing it.  Brett?



On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 8:42 AM Sanne Grinovero <sanne at hibernate.org> wrote:

> Agreed, I'll remove it.  Thanks Steve and Yoann!
>
> I'll remove them from 5.5 soon, you can then merge the removal in 6.0
> or do it differently if that's easier.
>
> This is the JIRA:
>  - https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/HHH-13952
>
> Regarding OSGi (which Yoann raised): I agree we shouldn't spend
> significant amounts of time on it, but as long as tests still work and
> it doesn't get in the way I'll leave them be.
> I have a related JIRA for OSGi as well: the tutorial is using very old
> (unmaintained?) dependency versions, so it will either need to be
> removed (people can always read the older tutorial), or it should be
> updated (and tested).
> I might give it a shot to update it, but I'm afraid it will need a
> full set of Jakarta EE 9 dependencies available as well.
>  - https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/HHH-13951
>
> Yoann, great idea about the platform agnostic testrunner. We should
> keep that in mind, hopefully we'll be able to make it happen
> eventually.
>
> Thanks,
> Sanne
>
>
> On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 13:46, Steve Ebersole <steve at hibernate.org> wrote:
> >
> > Considering the changes in WildFly, I also think we should just drop
> hibernate-orm-modules.
> >
> > For 6.0 I will definitely do this.  I also think removing it is good for
> 5.5.
> >
> > Not sure it is even worth the hassle for earlier releases however.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 5:03 PM Sanne Grinovero <sanne at hibernate.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> As we're working to upgrade to Jakarta EE 9, our feature packs for
> >> Wildfly are not going to be functional for a while at least.
> >>
> >> Not only do we have to upgrade to JPA 3, but we also need to upgrade
> >> our integrations with a different Validator, a different CDI - none of
> >> these are provided by WildFly yet.
> >>
> >> I see several options:
> >>  A] I could disable the feature pack generation and its integration
> tests.
> >>  B] Keep generating and releasing a knowingly broken feature pack,
> >> disable its integration tests, document this is work in progress.
> >>  C] Delete all this stuff
> >>
> >> Frankly it's tempting to just delete it all: WildFly has switched to a
> >> new model which replaces the "feature pack" notion we have, so even if
> >> Wildfly were to provide an Jakarta EE 9 build for us to run
> >> integration tests sometimes soon I'm sadly quite certain that we'll
> >> have to rethink how these packs are generated, and if it's still worth
> >> for us doing this.
> >>
> >> Any thoughts?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Sanne
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