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                                            <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">A conversation with Steve about the possible design:</p>
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                                                <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">&lt;sannegrinovero&gt; sebersole: is there an &quot;auto-flush&quot; event I could listen to?<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; org.hibernate.event.spi.AutoFlushEventListener<br /> &lt;sannegrinovero&gt; as that issue about the Session.clear() method is far more complex than what I initially thought<br /> &lt;sannegrinovero&gt; nice. Is that also fired if a user is performing an explicit Session.flush() ?<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; no<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; auto flush is a specific thing<br /> &lt;sannegrinovero&gt; if you could bare my thoughts: the problem is that if a user does a clear() opertion, but somehow changes where already flushed to the DB, ...<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; yep<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; then you dont want to clear the index<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; was thining about that<br /> &lt;sannegrinovero&gt; exactly, or I get out of synch anyway.<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; but my connection makes comms hard <img class="emoticon" src="https://hibernate.atlassian.net/images/icons/emoticons/smile.gif" height="20" width="20" align="absmiddle" alt="" border="0" /><br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; well its a tough deal<br /> &lt;sannegrinovero&gt; is there a specific event for flush() or could I add one like with clear() ?<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; there is a flush event too yes<br /> &lt;sannegrinovero&gt; ah great.<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; org.hibernate.event.spi.FlushEventListener<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; there is also...<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; org.hibernate.event.spi.FlushEntityEventListener<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; which is the listener for each entity within a flush (no matter if auto or explicit)<br /> &lt;sannegrinovero&gt; you agree that if I listen to both flush events &amp; and hypotetical clear event then I should have enough info to do &quot;the right thing&quot; at TX commit?<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; do you have a notion of flushing the pending index updates?<br /> &lt;sannegrinovero&gt; yes<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; other than transactionally<br /> &lt;sannegrinovero&gt; we provide an explicit method for that, &quot;flushToIndexes()&quot;<br /> &lt;sannegrinovero&gt; which forces a flush even if the transaction is not finished yet<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; but is that a transaction boundary thing?<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; so transaction still has an effect?<br /> &lt;sannegrinovero&gt; it's similar to the Session.flush() with the important difference that it won't be cancelled by a TX rollback<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; well thats a very important diff <img class="emoticon" src="https://hibernate.atlassian.net/images/icons/emoticons/smile.gif" height="20" width="20" align="absmiddle" alt="" border="0" /><br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; you really need something akin to our actionqueue<br /> &lt;sannegrinovero&gt; right, but we can't do much about it, other than clearly document it.<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; a &quot;staging&quot; place for actions<br /> &lt;sannegrinovero&gt; we have something like that, it's where we collect all events from the ORM listeners normally.<br /> &lt;sannegrinovero&gt; it's then registered in a tx synch, so we &quot;flush&quot; it to indexes as an after-commit event.<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; but you need to know which have been flushed<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; in the orm sense<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; so you know what to do properly on clear<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; couple ways to attack this, but thats the crux<br /> &lt;sannegrinovero&gt; my thought was that on a flush, we would receive a sequence of ORM events, so I collect all these in a block.<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; thats FlushEntityEventListener<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; you'd get one per entity being flushed<br /> &lt;sannegrinovero&gt; ah I thought that ORM would flush all or nothing? Is it able to flush only a specific type?<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; well thats essentially what an auto flush is<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; we have a query that we know hits the table Animal, e.g.<br /> &lt;sannegrinovero&gt; I see, so the &quot;auto&quot; one is somewat smar and flushes only the minimum needed to achieve consistency with queries, no more. Right?<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; so flush all entity changes that write to that table<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; yep<br /> &lt;sannegrinovero&gt; cool, thanks I'll take it from here.<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; partial flush is a better name probably<br /> &lt;sannegrinovero&gt; now that I know the bird's eye design it's much easier to handle. thanks<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; np<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; btw, FlushEntityEventListener is not per type<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; its literally per entity<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; each instance<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; Animal#1, Animal#2, ...<br /> &lt;sannegrinovero&gt; great that makes it easier<br /> &lt;sannegrinovero&gt; I can then literally &quot;promote&quot; each update task to a separate level where it's &quot;protected&quot; from clear()<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; exactly<br /> &lt;sebersole&gt; thats my &quot;staging&quot;</p>
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