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<p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"><a href="https://hibernate.atlassian.net/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=twhitbeck" class="user-hover" rel="twhitbeck" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">Tim Whitbeck</a> Your's is actually a separate discussion. The discussion here is specifically about understanding that there is a JavaBean pattern in the class; even though the AccessType is defined as FIELD, understanding that there is a getter too, and that calling the getter is safe because it refers to the identifier (which the proxy already has access to). </p>
<p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">This is not about general "do init or dont" solutions. It is very specifically about identifiers.</p>
<p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">BTW, there is a start to this is on master for 5.0. The idea there so far is to allow the users break from strict JPA and tell Hibernate to allow <tt>@Access(PROPERTY)</tt> on a field, such that the AccessType just names the runtime access strategy. That does require there to be a setter, yes. Yet, another option if you want to not have the setter is to use a customer <tt>org.hibernate.property.PropertyAccessor</tt> strategy. All of this is covered in the new topical guide: <a href="https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-orm/blob/master/documentation/src/main/asciidoc/topical/accesstype/AccessType.adoc" class="external-link" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-orm/blob/master/documentation/src/main/asciidoc/topical/accesstype/AccessType.adoc</a></p>
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