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                                                    <td class="text-paragraph-pattern-container mobile-resize-text " style="padding: 0; border-collapse: collapse; padding: 0 0 10px"> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:10px;; margin: 10px 0 0; margin-top: 0">It seems that in-DB generated columns are not passed into the Indentity Insert query of the entity persister. For example the FunctionCreationTimestamp from the <a href="http://docs.jboss.org/hibernate/orm/4.3/topical/html/generated/GeneratedValues.html" class="external-link" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">http://docs.jboss.org/hibernate/orm/4.3/topical/html/generated/GeneratedValues.html</a> documentation, does not insert on an update for an entity with a @Id @GeneratedValue(strategy = GenerationType.AUTO) Long id column.</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:10px;; margin: 10px 0 0">The problem seems to be the inconsistency between generateIdentityInsertString and generateInsertString .</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:10px;; margin: 10px 0 0">One adds the normal properties as follows:</p> 
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                <span class="code-comment" style="color: #808080">// add normal properties
</span>                <span class="code-keyword" style="color: #000091">for</span> ( <span class="code-object" style="color: #910091">int</span> i = 0; i &lt; entityMetamodel.getPropertySpan(); i++ ) {
                        <span class="code-comment" style="color: #808080">// the incoming <span class="code-quote" style="color: #009100; color: #808080">'includeProperty'</span> array only accounts <span class="code-keyword" style="color: #000091; color: #808080">for</span> insertable defined at the root level, it
</span>                        <span class="code-comment" style="color: #808080">// does not account <span class="code-keyword" style="color: #000091; color: #808080">for</span> partially generated composites etc.  We also need to account <span class="code-keyword" style="color: #000091; color: #808080">for</span> generation
</span>                        <span class="code-comment" style="color: #808080">// values
</span>                        <span class="code-keyword" style="color: #000091">if</span> ( isPropertyOfTable( i, j ) ) {
                                <span class="code-keyword" style="color: #000091">if</span> ( !lobProperties.contains( i ) ) {
                                        <span class="code-keyword" style="color: #000091">final</span> InDatabaseValueGenerationStrategy generationStrategy = entityMetamodel.getInDatabaseValueGenerationStrategies()[i];
                                        <span class="code-keyword" style="color: #000091">if</span> ( generationStrategy != <span class="code-keyword" style="color: #000091">null</span> &amp;&amp; generationStrategy.getGenerationTiming().includesInsert() ) {
                                                <span class="code-keyword" style="color: #000091">if</span> ( generationStrategy.referenceColumnsInSql() ) {
                                                        <span class="code-keyword" style="color: #000091">final</span> <span class="code-object" style="color: #910091">String</span>[] values;
                                                        <span class="code-keyword" style="color: #000091">if</span> ( generationStrategy.getReferencedColumnValues() == <span class="code-keyword" style="color: #000091">null</span> ) {
                                                                values = propertyColumnWriters[i];
                                                        }
                                                        <span class="code-keyword" style="color: #000091">else</span> {
                                                                <span class="code-keyword" style="color: #000091">final</span> <span class="code-object" style="color: #910091">int</span> numberOfColumns = propertyColumnWriters[i].length;
                                                                values = <span class="code-keyword" style="color: #000091">new</span> <span class="code-object" style="color: #910091">String</span>[numberOfColumns];
                                                                <span class="code-keyword" style="color: #000091">for</span> ( <span class="code-object" style="color: #910091">int</span> x = 0; x &lt; numberOfColumns; x++ ) {
                                                                        <span class="code-keyword" style="color: #000091">if</span> ( generationStrategy.getReferencedColumnValues()[x] != <span class="code-keyword" style="color: #000091">null</span> ) {
                                                                                values[x] = generationStrategy.getReferencedColumnValues()[x];
                                                                        }
                                                                        <span class="code-keyword" style="color: #000091">else</span> {
                                                                                values[x] = propertyColumnWriters[i][x];
                                                                        }
                                                                }
                                                        }
                                                        insert.addColumns( getPropertyColumnNames( i ), propertyColumnInsertable[i], values );
                                                }
                                        }
                                        <span class="code-keyword" style="color: #000091">else</span> <span class="code-keyword" style="color: #000091">if</span> ( includeProperty[i] ) {
                                                insert.addColumns(
                                                                getPropertyColumnNames( i ),
                                                                propertyColumnInsertable[i],
                                                                propertyColumnWriters[i]
                                                );
                                        }
                                }
                        }
                }
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                <span class="code-comment" style="color: #808080">// add normal properties except lobs
</span>                <span class="code-keyword" style="color: #000091">for</span> ( <span class="code-object" style="color: #910091">int</span> i = 0; i &lt; entityMetamodel.getPropertySpan(); i++ ) {
                        <span class="code-keyword" style="color: #000091">if</span> ( includeProperty[i] &amp;&amp; isPropertyOfTable( i, 0 ) &amp;&amp; !lobProperties.contains( i ) ) {
                                <span class="code-comment" style="color: #808080">// <span class="code-keyword" style="color: #000091; color: #808080">this</span> property belongs on the table and is to be inserted
</span>                                insert.addColumns( getPropertyColumnNames( i ), propertyColumnInsertable[i], propertyColumnWriters[i] );
                        }
                }
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