[infinispan-dev] Local state transfer before going over network

[Galder Zamarreño]

On May 16, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Sanne Grinovero wrote:

> 2011/5/16 Galder Zamarreño <galder at redhat.com>:
>> Not sure if the idea has come up but while at GeeCON last week I was discussing to one of the attendees about state transfer improvements in replicated environments:
>> 
>> The idea is that in a replicated environment, if a cache manager shuts down, it would dump its memory contents to a cache store (i.e. a local filesystem) and when it starts up, instead of going over the network to do state transfer, it would load the state from the local filesystem which would be much quicker. Obviously, at times the cache manager would crash or have some failure dumping the memory contents, so in that case it would fallback on state transfer over the network. I think it's an interesting idea since it could reduce the amount of state transfer to be done. It's true though that there're other tricks if you're having issues with state transfer, such as the use of a cluster cache loader.
>> 
>> WDYT?
> 
> Well if it's a shared cachestore, then we're using network at some
> level anyway. If we're talking about a not-shared cachestore, how do
> you know which keys/values are still valid and where not updated? and
> about the new keys?

I see this only being useful with a local cache store cos if you need to go remote over the network, might as well just do state transfer.

Not sure if the timestamp of creation/update is available per all entries (i'd need to check the code but maybe immortals do not store it...), but anyway assuming that a timestamp was stored in the local cache store, on startup the node could send this timestamp and the coordinator could send anything new created/updated after that timestamp.

This would be particularly efficient in situations where you have to quickly restart a machine for whatever reason and so the deltas are very small, or when the caches are big and state transfer would cost a lot from a bandwidth perspective.

> 
> I like the concept though, let's explore more in this direction.
> 
> Sanne
> 
>> --
>> Galder Zamarreño
>> Sr. Software Engineer
>> Infinispan, JBoss Cache
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> infinispan-dev mailing list
>> infinispan-dev at lists.jboss.org
>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/infinispan-dev
>> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> infinispan-dev mailing list
> infinispan-dev at lists.jboss.org
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/infinispan-dev

--
Galder Zamarreño
Sr. Software Engineer
Infinispan, JBoss Cache