[infinispan-dev] Uber Jars
dan.berindei at gmail.com
Tue Jun 3 10:40:30 EDT 2014
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Tristan Tarrant <ttarrant at redhat.com> wrote:
> On 03/06/2014 11:35, Sanne Grinovero wrote:
> > On 3 June 2014 09:57, Mircea Markus <mmarkus at redhat.com> wrote:
> >> On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:53, Tristan Tarrant <ttarrant at redhat.com> wrote:
> >>> Dear all,
> >>> on Thursday I issued a PR  to introduce Uber Jars, i.e. single jars
> >>> which wrap our multitude of jars and some of the transitive
> >>> dependencies, but it was (rightly) pointed out that we should have a
> >>> little discussion here first.
> > thanks!
> >>> Firstly, I'm using the maven shade plugin which repackages multiple
> >>> into one with:
> >>> - automatic transitive resolution
> >>> - the ability to include/exclude certain jars
> >>> - move classes if necessary to other packages to avoid conflicts
> >>> - rewrite the POM with the new dependencies.
> >>> Here is my global strategy:
> >>> - define a set of uber-jars (see below)
> >>> - include all non-optional dependencies in each uber-jar except for the
> >>> specification Jars (e.g. javax.transaction and javax.persistence)
> >>> - rename some internal-only dependencies to avoid conflicts
> >>> - uber jars MUST NOT inherit from infinispan-parent (too much cruft in
> >>> there) but only from infinispan-bom.
> > What is the definition of an "internal-only" dependency?
> > I really like the intention but renaming seems quite dangerous.
> > For example, JGroups is quite internal but doing so it means the user
> > could not create a custom Protocol and define it in his configuration
> > file.
> > Also I suspect several frameworks rely on reflection to "wire-up" at
> > boot time (like JGroups does with Protocol class names), so if we're
> > in the business of relocating classes, this should be followed by
> > integration tests.
> The only dependency which currently "fits" my definitions is
> jboss-logging. It is only used internally and its APIs are not
> My PR also includes a simple integration test for the "embedded" case. I
> will obviously integrate it with tests with the others once we agree on
> the structure.
> >> Just for my own understanding, what is the rationale behind this?
> Users who don't use a dependency management system (i.e. Maven, Ivy,
> etc) can write an application just by adding a "single" jar.
> >>> The Uber Jars
> >>> - infinispan-embedded-all (infinispan-commons, infinispan-core,
> >>> jboss-marshalling-osgi, jboss-logging, infinispan-cachestore-jdbc,
> >>> infinispan-cachestore-jpa, infinispan-cachestore-leveldb)
> > I wouldn't call a package "-all" if it's missing some things. For
> > example, without Query functionality this "All" is actually a very
> > limited subset ;-)
> > WDYT "infinispan-embedded"
> >>> - infinispan-remote-all (infinispan-commons, infinispan-client-hotrod,
> >>> commons-pool, jboss-marshalling-osgi, jboss-logging,
> >>> infinispan-remote-query-client, infinispan-query-dsl,
> >>> infinispan-protostream, protobuf-java)
> > Same objection on the "-all" naming.
> > I'd suggest "infinispan-client".
> >>> - infinispan-query-all (infinispan-query, infinispan-query-dsl,
> >>> hibernate-hql-parser, antlr, stringtemplate, hibernate-hql-lucene,
> >>> hibernate-search-engine, infinispan-lucene-v4,
> >>> hibernate-search-analyzers, lucene*, solr*, avro, jackson-core,
> >>> jackson-mapper, paranamer, apache-compress,
> >>> hibernate-search-infinispan, hibernate-commons-annotations). This
> >>> package will depend on infinispan-embedded-all and we should only make
> >>> Lucene v4 version).
> > If you make only a Lucene V4 version that's not going to work with
> > master as it's today, my patches to upgade the Query engine to use
> > Lucene V4 are not integrated yet. (And if it's meant for a Lucene4
> > target, then you don't need Solr)
> I added solr since that is what my aging neuron remembered. Shade
> actually pulls in the dependency tree automatically so I don't have to
> think about these things (and the Infinispan Query dependency hierarchy
> is hairier than a sea otter).
> > More importantly: is the user meant to use these as Either/OR or as
> > additive packages? From the dependencies you listed it looks like
> > additive packages, but I think the name suggests that using
> > "infinispan-query-all" you have all what's needed.
> infinispan-embedded-query would still depend on infinispan-embedded, so
> the user would require both jars. For the maven user, just depending on
> infinispan-embedded-query will do the trick, since infinispan-embedded
> would be a transitive.
Interesting, I thought the uber jars would only be relevant for non-Maven
So we'd also have a POM in the Maven repo that Maven users can reference,
for each uber jar?
> > Much simpler this way, so why not making this the default packaging?
> The "uber" jars are what we should advertise in our quickstarts, docs,
> etc. Obviously the single underlying jars would still be deployed to maven.
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