[infinispan-dev] Important feedback for transcoding work - Re: Quick fix for ISPN-7710

[Adrian Nistor]

Galder, I've seen AddProtobufTask in March or April when you mentioned 
this issue on the devlist; that approach can work for protostream 
marshallers or any other code bits that the Cache does not depend on 
during startup, and which can be deployed anytime later. In this 
category we currently have : filters, converters. These are currently 
deployed with the help of a DeploymentUnitProcessor, but we could have 
done it using a ServerTask as well. Now that we took the route of DUP, I 
think we should continue in a consistent manner and use it for other 
'deployables' we identify from now on, ie. the protobuf entity marshallers.

As for encoders, lucene analyzers, compatibility marshaller, event 
marshaller - these are all needed during cache startup. We need to come 
up with something for these, so I propose to look them up using the 
"moduleId:slot:className" convention.


On 06/15/2017 03:40 PM, Galder Zamarreño wrote:
> @Gustavo, some important info for your transcoding work below:
>
> --
> Galder Zamarreño
> Infinispan, Red Hat
>
>> On 15 Jun 2017, at 11:05, Adrian Nistor <anistor at redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Galder,
>>
>> this fix is acceptable for now as it quickly enables users to use CompatibilityProtoStreamMarshaller (provided by Infinispan), but in the long run we would want users to be able to specify a custom marshaller class that comes from a user supplied module or even a deployment - the general case.
>>
>> With the introduction of encoders and deprecation of compat mode we still have the same class loading issue in the general case. So I propose to refine a bit our approach and instead of specifying just a class name we should use a naming schema like "moduleId:slot:className", giving users the ability to specify a class that comes from a different module or deployment. I'm currently experimenting with this. I'll come back with results soon.
>>
>> There are also other code bits that need to be deployed in the server ASAP: protostream entity marshallers, lucene analyzers. I'm thinking these could all benefit from the same solution.
> I was able to easily get around the issue of deploying protostream entity marshallers by simply adding a server tasks that did that:
>
> https://github.com/infinispan-demos/swiss-transport-datagrid/blob/master/analytics/analytics-domain/src/main/java/delays/java/stream/proto/AddProtobufTask.java
>
> In fact, that server tasks acts serves as a way to add domain pojos to the system... So when the server starts receiving data, it can deserialize it without problems.
>
> However, there's a potential problem here you might want to consider in your work: If I deploy the add protobuf task, write data, then redeploy the add protobuf task, then retrieve some data, the system blows up because the classloader of the domain POJOs has changed. So you'd start seeing ClassCastException errors...
>
> That's why I think that even though in the past we'd store objects in deserialized form, this could be problematic because you're committing to domain objects with a given classloader...
>
> The more I think about it, the more I think we should keep data only in binary format in the server. IOW, we should never try to keep it in deserialized format. That way, no matter how many times the domain objects are redeployed, assuming no compile-binary changes, the lazy transcoding would work without problems.
>
>> Btw, what is the relation between ISPN-7814 and ISPN-7710 ?
> The relationship between them is explained here:
>
> https://github.com/infinispan-demos/swiss-transport-datagrid#infinispan-server-docker-image
>
> I would strongly recommend that you give that demo repository a try, you might get new ideas on the work you're doing.
>
> Cheers,
>
>> Adrian
>>
>> On 06/14/2017 06:35 PM, Galder Zamarreño wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm seeing more and more people trying to do stuff like I did in [1] WRT to running server tasks in server.
>>>
>>> One of the blockers is [2]. I know we have transcoding coming up but I wondered if we could implement the quick hack of referencing remote-query.server module from root org.infinispan module.
>>>
>>> So, in essence, adding the following to org/infinispan/main/module.xml:
>>>
>>>        <module name="org.infinispan.remote-query.server" optional="true"/>
>>>
>>> Once ISPN-7710 is in place, along with ISPN-7814, users can run the demos in [1] without a custom server build.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> [1] https://github.com/infinispan-demos/swiss-transport-datagrid
>>> [2] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ISPN-7710
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>>> Galder Zamarreño
>>> Infinispan, Red Hat
>>>
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