<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On 26 Sep 2009, at 18:29, Adrian Cole wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">I think most enterprises will react to the EOL of JDK 5. For example, when JDK 1.4 was EOL, almost all applications in a medium sized enterprise I worked in were on JDK 5 within a year. One limiting factor in uptake time was the maturity of appservers that supported the new JDK. In today's context, JDK 6 compatible appservers and frameworks have been available for over a year already, and past their .0 release. I agree that embracing infinispan would imply reasonably fresh thinking and already place it into a dev team who are probably already on JDK 6. I moreover doubt any enterprise would issue a policy enforcing use of an EOL JDK, so these fresh thinking dev teams will not likely encounter problems moving to prod.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>You're only saying that coz you want JClouds to baseline on JDK6 as well. ;)</div><div><br></div><div>Lots of good sense in Sanne's and Adrian's arguments though. Anyone else? Anybody standing on the side of JDK 5?</div><br><blockquote type="cite">at the end of that ramble....<br><br>+1 release with JDK 6+ support<br><br>Cheers,<br>Adrian<br>jclouds<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 5:57 AM, Sanne Grinovero <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sanne.grinovero@gmail.com">sanne.grinovero@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">My 2c:<br>
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I'm deploying only on JDKs >=6 since three years now,<br>
and IMHO new projects going to consider Infinispan in this timeframe<br>
are probably in a design/early development fase, almost everyone<br>
will be ready to deploy something stable only after the JDK5 will be phased out.<br>
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The main "market" for this kind of libraries is enterprise, which wants support<br>
and will probably refrain from using Java5, at least for new deployments.<br>
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2009/9/26 Manik Surtani <<a href="mailto:manik@jboss.org">manik@jboss.org</a>>:<br>
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> On 25 Sep 2009, at 16:56, Galder Zamarreno wrote:<br>
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>> On 09/25/2009 05:38 PM, David M. Lloyd wrote:<br>
>>> On 09/25/2009 07:38 AM, Manik Surtani wrote:<br>
>>>> On 25 Sep 2009, at 11:53, Galder Zamarreno wrote:<br>
>>>>> On 09/24/2009 12:50 PM, Manik Surtani wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> </snip><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> For a basic runtime, the deps are fairly limited (JTA interfaces,<br>
>>>>>> JGroups, JBoss Marshalling if you are using JDK6. Add JAXB if<br>
>>>>>> JDK5)<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Hmmm, JBoss Marshalling if you are using JDK6? JBoss Marshalling is<br>
>>>>> there regardless AFAIK and has JDK5 requirements. It's XNIO 2.0<br>
>>>>> that<br>
>>>>> might have JDK6 requirement but it'd be in an optional module<br>
>>>>> anyway.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I should have added brackets. :-)<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> "{JTA interfaces, JGroups, JBoss Marshalling} if you are using JDK6.<br>
>>>> Add JAXB if JDK5."<br>
>>><br>
>>> Also it seems foregone that a (relatively-near) future JBMAR will<br>
>>> require<br>
>>> JDK6, namely to add support for optimized serialization of new<br>
>>> collection<br>
>>> types and to take advantage of the faster classloading of JDK6-<br>
>>> targeted<br>
>>> classes.<br>
>><br>
>> Hmmm, this is important since JBMAR is a core dependency. We had a<br>
>> discussion a while back and the agreement was to stay on JDK5 since we<br>
>> did nothing JDK6 specific but I think it might be time to move to JDK6<br>
>> fully, thoughts?<br>
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> Vote to the public? I'd love to baseline on JDK6. But I'd hate to<br>
> limit uptake.<br>
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> Cheers<br>
> --<br>
> Manik Surtani<br>
> <a href="mailto:manik@jboss.org">manik@jboss.org</a><br>
> Lead, Infinispan<br>
> Lead, JBoss Cache<br>
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