<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Phil,<div><br></div><div>I presume you're using the new CloudCacheStore? I hope to see a JClouds 1.0-beta3 out this weekend which will be the version used for CloudCacheStore (instead of a JClouds snapshot, which may be the root cause of your 403's).</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div>Manik</div><div><br><div><div>On 30 Jan 2010, at 09:58, Philippe Van Dyck wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Amin,<div><br></div><div>I did some tests too. Unfortunately, they were inconclusive...</div><div>Using JClouds BlobStore CacheStore I end up with a lot of 'other' problems (right now, I am getting 403 from S3).</div>
<div>Since IMO, it is unrelated to the async behavior, I cannot help until I solve the previous bugs.</div><div><br></div><div>Futures are everywhere in the code now (at least in the BlobStore) and it makes debugging a lot harder since I cannot step easily into code.</div>
<div><br></div><div>As soon as I solve the BlobStore issues, I'll get back to this one and post my results...</div><div><br></div><div>phil<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Amin Abbaspour <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:a.abbaspour@gmail.com">a.abbaspour@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">I did some tests. Unfortunately my results are not much satisfactory.<br>
<br>
I do confirm that now changes are synced in a separate<br>
CoalescedAsyncStore thread, but the aggregate process we discussed<br>
before here ( <a href="https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/ISPN-116" target="_blank">https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/ISPN-116</a> ) does not<br>
work anymore. I can see that not the only final value but all<br>
modifications are flushed. (i.e. sync at then end of a 100<br>
modifications period results in 100 stores)<br>
<br>
The other issue is that only cache.put() worked for me this way, and<br>
it ignored all modification via replace for example.<br>
<br>
Let me know if you have done similar tests and your results plz.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
Amin<br>
<br>
<br>
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Amin Abbaspour <<a href="mailto:a.abbaspour@gmail.com">a.abbaspour@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Thanks Galder for such a quickly fix.<br>
><br>
> like Philippe I was not expecting this major issue to be fixed so<br>
> fast. I have not tested it myself yet, but will check and inform my<br>
> test result tomorrow.<br>
><br>
> Amin<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5">><br>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Manik Surtani <<a href="mailto:manik@jboss.org">manik@jboss.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On 29 Jan 2010, at 12:21, Philippe Van Dyck wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks Galder, I could have.<br>
>> As you noticed in the thread, this bug is a blocker for me and since qi4j<br>
>> 1.0 was released two days ago, I am now only waiting for the latest release<br>
>> of JClouds (beta3) to integrate all of them.<br>
>> So having it solved so quickly (!!! :-) ) did change a lot of my schedule<br>
>> these last days and when I asked the previous question I was far away from<br>
>> any fully fledged browser...<br>
>> Until Jira fully integrates with mailing lists, there will be a lag between<br>
>> a "this is done now" message and the "here is the svn log" explanation for<br>
>> anybody with a crappy phone like me ;-)<br>
>> Actually, having Jira manage (or observe) the mailing list could be a very<br>
>> good idea... linking code changes to specific parts of discussions and<br>
>> having Jira to automagically tag it as 'bug' 'task' or 'improvement' would<br>
>> be very nice (Jira could also add links to code...)!<br>
>><br>
>> Only once JIRA actually fixes and commits bugs (and makes me coffee) will I<br>
>> be truly impressed! :)<br>
>><br>
>> phil<br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Galder Zamarreno <<a href="mailto:galder@jboss.org">galder@jboss.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On 01/28/2010 06:15 PM, Philippe Van Dyck wrote:<br>
>>> > Could you please be a bit more specific ?<br>
>>> > Are there any test to confirm the closing of the bug ?<br>
>>> > Is it in trunk ?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Dude, you could at least check the jira and its svn tab!<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> <a href="https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/ISPN-340?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.ext.subversion:subversion-commits-tabpanel" target="_blank">https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/ISPN-340?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.ext.subversion:subversion-commits-tabpanel</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > That sounds like a really good news ;-)<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > phil<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Galder Zamarreno<<a href="mailto:galder@jboss.org">galder@jboss.org</a>><br>
>>> > wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> >> This is done now.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> On 01/26/2010 01:10 PM, Amin Abbaspour wrote:<br>
>>> >>> Created <a href="https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/ISPN-340" target="_blank">https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/ISPN-340</a><br>
>>> >>> You can vote.<br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Sanne Grinovero<br>
>>> >>> <<a href="mailto:sanne.grinovero@gmail.com">sanne.grinovero@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> >>>> +1<br>
>>> >>>> I don't know if it's correct to consider it a bug, but choices on<br>
>>> >>>> JIRA<br>
>>> >>>> are limited.<br>
>>> >>>> I would really need this - performance impact is high - and hope they<br>
>>> >>>> could fix it before 4.0<br>
>>> >>>><br>
>>> >>>> Regards,<br>
>>> >>>> Sanne<br>
>>> >>>><br>
>>> >>>> 2010/1/26 Amin Abbaspour<<a href="mailto:a.abbaspour@gmail.com">a.abbaspour@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>>> >>>>> Yes Philippe, I think it is a bug.<br>
>>> >>>>><br>
>>> >>>>> This totally ruins all attempts to create a write-behind async<br>
>>> >>>>> store.<br>
>>> >>>>> I don't know if JBoss Cache had the same issue or not, but for many<br>
>>> >>>>> use-cases (including ours) one will need both TX and write-behind<br>
>>> >>>>> simultaneously.<br>
>>> >>>>><br>
>>> >>>>> OK, I will open a bug in Jira for 4.0.0-GA.<br>
>>> >>>>><br>
>>> >>>>> Amin<br>
>>> >>>>><br>
>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Philippe Van Dyck<<a href="mailto:pvdyck@gmail.com">pvdyck@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> >> wrote:<br>
>>> >>>>>> Sounds like a good idea.<br>
>>> >>>>>> How do you qualify it ? Bug ? (perf) Improvement ?<br>
>>> >>>>>> It has a major impact on performance when using the S3 CacheStore,<br>
>>> >>>>>> so<br>
>>> >> I<br>
>>> >>>>>> would like it to be a "performance bug".<br>
>>> >>>>>> WDYT ... especially regarding the planning of the next release ?<br>
>>> >>>>>> Phil<br>
>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Amin Abbaspour<<br>
>>> >> <a href="mailto:a.abbaspour@gmail.com">a.abbaspour@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> >>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>> >>>>>>><br>
>>> >>>>>>> Hi,<br>
>>> >>>>>>><br>
>>> >>>>>>> Should I open a jira task for this?<br>
>>> >>>>>>><br>
>>> >>>>>>> Amin<br>
>>> >>>>>>><br>
>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Amin Abbaspour<<br>
>>> >> <a href="mailto:a.abbaspour@gmail.com">a.abbaspour@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> >>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>> >>>>>>>> I guess this is a somehow a bug or typo.<br>
>>> >>>>>>>><br>
>>> >>>>>>>> Transactions and stores are two separate concepts. While it<br>
>>> >>>>>>>> sounds<br>
>>> >> to<br>
>>> >>>>>>>> flush to normal store at the TX commit but when one knowingly<br>
>>> >>>>>>>> sets<br>
>>> >>>>>>>> store as async, he accepts the risk of consistence in favor of<br>
>>> >> speed.<br>
>>> >>>>>>>><br>
>>> >>>>>>>> I expect this to be fixed (or at least discussed) before GA.<br>
>>> >>>>>>>><br>
>>> >>>>>>>> Amin<br>
>>> >>>>>>>><br>
>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Philippe Van<br>
>>> >>>>>>>> Dyck<<a href="mailto:pvdyck@gmail.com">pvdyck@gmail.com</a><br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>> I do confirm this behavior.<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Transactions and asynchronous updates may seem antagonistic, but<br>
>>> >> they<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>> are<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>> not on a multi-level cache.<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>> I plan to use a synchronous transactional disk cache and a<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>> second<br>
>>> >> non<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>> transactional asynchronous s3 cache, to get the best of both<br>
>>> >> worlds.<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Since the asynchronous aspect of the s3 cache will not allow me<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>> to<br>
>>> >> get<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>> any<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>> feedback (aka Future), I want it to 'write-behind' in the<br>
>>> >> background<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>> (and<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>> hope everything goes well).<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>> I will wait for the qi4j v1 release (probably Monday), adapt<br>
>>> >> infinispan<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>> to<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>> the blobstore of jClouds and take a closer look at this in a<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>> couple<br>
>>> >> of<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>> weeks.<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Phil<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>><br>
>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Amin Abbaspour<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>> <<a href="mailto:a.abbaspour@gmail.com">a.abbaspour@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>>><br>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi All,<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>>><br>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regarding<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>>><br>
>>> >> <a href="http://community.jboss.org/wiki/Write-ThroughAndWrite-BehindCaching" target="_blank">http://community.jboss.org/wiki/Write-ThroughAndWrite-BehindCaching</a><br>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> , Even if Syncer is in Async mode, but if we modify a key<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> inside a<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> transaction boundary it is always stored synchronously! Why is<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> it<br>
>>> >> so?<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> How can I have both locking and async store. FYI I use JBossTM<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Standalone.<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>>><br>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards,<br>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Amin Abbaspour<br>
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