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I agree. There are two ways to determine what the memory usage is, polling or notifications. The notification mechanism is not guaranteed, so we could have a background thread that polls to determine whether or not the threshold has been passed. Then in the put and replace methods, it would be the cost of checking a boolean value.<BR>
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From: manik@jboss.org<BR>Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:45:29 +0000<BR>To: infinispan-dev@lists.jboss.org<BR>Subject: Re: [infinispan-dev] ISPN-863 - Thoughts / Questions<BR><BR>
<META content="Microsoft SafeHTML" name=Generator><BASE>I'll let Vladimir comment more as he wrote most of this code originally, but it sounds OK in principle.
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<DIV>Would you need to check the memory usage on every put and replace? Wouldn't this be expensive? Couldn't this happen periodically?
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<DIV>On 14 Jan 2011, at 03:22, david marion wrote:</DIV><BR class=ecxApple-interchange-newline>
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<DIV>Hi Dave</DIV>
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<DIV>Just saw that you signed the contributor agreement.</DIV>
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<DIV>So yeah, what you may want to look into is the EvictionManager [1] which will periodically have its processEviction() [2] method called. This doesn't actually do any evictions here (named so for legacy reasons) since the current data container is self-sizing/evicting. However it is still periodically invoked to purge expired entries. </DIV>
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<DIV>You can piggyback on the same invocation to test upper and lower bounds of memory utilisation (if enabled), but the bit that I still think you need to figure out is deciding which entries to evict, and how many of them to evict.</DIV>
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<DIV>Cheers</DIV>
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<DIV>[1] <A href="https://github.com/infinispan/infinispan/blob/master/core/src/main/java/org/infinispan/eviction/EvictionManagerImpl.java" target=_blank>https://github.com/infinispan/infinispan/blob/master/core/src/main/java/org/infinispan/eviction/EvictionManagerImpl.java</A></DIV>
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<DIV>On 10 Jan 2011, at 11:08, Manik Surtani wrote:</DIV><BR class=ecxApple-interchange-newline>
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<DIV>You should probably come up with a design first - or maybe a prototype on your fork of the project on GitHub - and post it here for comment.</DIV>
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<DIV>On 8 Jan 2011, at 00:34, david marion wrote:</DIV><BR class=ecxApple-interchange-newline>
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