<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Ok, So proposal "Emmanuel Dec 9th" is hereby rechristened Deelog.<div class="">I’ve captured it in the wiki <a href="https://github.com/infinispan/infinispan/wiki/Deelog:-direct-integration-with-Debezium" class="">https://github.com/infinispan/infinispan/wiki/Deelog:-direct-integration-with-Debezium</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Randall and I discussed the case were more than two owners die too quickly (assuming a distribution factor of 2). We are in relatively deep trouble because we are breaking our eventual consistency rule (between Infinispan and the state in Kafka).</div><div class="">I’ve written the few options we have explored to compensate from that.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Emmanuel<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 16 Dec 2016, at 17:00, Tristan Tarrant <<a href="mailto:ttarrant@redhat.com" class="">ttarrant@redhat.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><br class="">On 16/12/16 16:30, Emmanuel Bernard wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">The Emmanuel Dec 9th proposal handles I think the case of topology changes and nodes going down.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">We need a better name :)<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">For a cluster-wide shutdown with no time to flush queues, I think both Artemis and the local debezium talking to remote Kafka will be in trouble.<br class=""><br class="">The main difference is I imagine that your Artemis log will be local to the node being shut down. But that would mean a complex system to restart with the unflushed queue from all node that were shut down. Are we there yet?<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I'm specifically thinking about when the Debezium embedded in Infinispan <br class="">cannot talk to Kafka for whatever reason, and the user wants to shutdown.<br class=""><br class="">Tristan<br class=""><br class="">-- <br class="">Tristan Tarrant<br class="">Infinispan Lead<br class="">JBoss, a division of Red Hat<br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">infinispan-dev mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:infinispan-dev@lists.jboss.org" class="">infinispan-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br class="">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/infinispan-dev<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></body></html>