<div dir="auto"><div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 19 Jul 2017 14:52, "Dan Berindei" <<a href="mailto:dan.berindei@gmail.com">dan.berindei@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Can't we just copy a profile from Hibernate or WildFly?</div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I'm not aware of such profiles. Remember these are system wide settings, I'm not sure how useful it is for libraries like Hibernate. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It seems more common for databases, I guess because they are more likely to have a whole machine dedicated to their specialized use case.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">WildFly is an interesting idea but I suspect they'd rather inherit from the Infinispan tuning recommendations. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><font color="#888888"><br><br></font></div><font color="#888888">Dan<br></font></div><div class="elided-text"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:40 PM, Emmanuel Bernard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emmanuel@hibernate.org" target="_blank">emmanuel@hibernate.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">I don’t think it discourages, the people you pention would simply use the “default” profile. At least with a list of profiles, the idea of tuning pops into your mind and you can go further.<div><div class="m_-4196820566079868548h5"><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 18 Jul 2017, at 15:05, Sebastian Laskawiec <<a href="mailto:slaskawi@redhat.com" target="_blank">slaskawi@redhat.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_-4196820566079868548m_-2653312064586685871Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr">I have mixed feelings about this to be honest. On one hand this gives a really good experience for new users (just pick a profile you want to use) but on the other hand tools like this discourage users for doing proper tuning work (why should I read any documentation and do anything if everything has already been provided by Infinispan authors).<div><br></div><div>Nevertheless I think it might be worth to do a POC and host profiles in a separate repository (to avoid user confusion).</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 6:49 PM Sanne Grinovero <<a href="mailto:sanne@infinispan.org" target="_blank">sanne@infinispan.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all,<br>
<br>
tuned is a very nice utility to apply all kind of tuning options to a<br>
machine focusing on performance options.<br>
<br>
Of course it doesn't replace the tuning that an expert could provide<br>
for a specific system, but it gives people a quick an easy way to get<br>
to a reasonable starting point, which is much better than the generic<br>
out of the box of a Linux distribution.<br>
<br>
In many distributions it runs at boostrap transparently, for example<br>
it will automatically apply a "laptop" profile if it's able to detect<br>
running on a laptop, and might be the little tool which switches your<br>
settings to an higher performance profile when you plug in the laptop.<br>
<br>
There's some good reference here:<br>
- <a href="https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Performance_Tuning_Guide/sect-Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-Performance_Tuning_Guide-Performance_Monitoring_Tools-tuned_and_tuned_adm.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://access.redhat.com/docu<wbr>mentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterp<wbr>rise_Linux/7/html/Performance_<wbr>Tuning_Guide/sect-Red_Hat_<wbr>Enterprise_Linux-Performance_<wbr>Tuning_Guide-Performance_<wbr>Monitoring_Tools-tuned_and_<wbr>tuned_adm.html</a><br>
<br>
It's also easy to find it integrated with other tools, e.g. you can<br>
use Ansible to set a profile.<br>
<br>
Distributions like Fedora have out of the box profiles included which<br>
are good tuning base settings to run e.g. an Oracle RDBMS, an HANA<br>
database, or just tune for latency rather than throughput.<br>
Communities like Hadoop also provide suggested tuned settings.<br>
<br>
It would be great to distribute an Infinispan optimised profile? We<br>
could ask the Fedora team to include it, I feel it's important to have<br>
a profile there, or at least have one provided by any Infinispan RPMs.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Sanne<br>
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