<html><head><base href="x-msg://624/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Andy,<div><br></div><div>So if AS 7 is more development focused, I agree it can/should be, can any and all decisions made/discussed/etc on this list, make that experience the best it can be.</div><div><br></div><div>Worrisome threads in the last week:</div><div>Should a welcome page exist</div><div>Should it be enabled to have a .jsp to be hot deployed</div><div>How should lifecyles of datasource deployments be "configured/monitored/changed"</div><div><br></div><div>On a side vein I still worry about adoption and the learning curve of all of this new amazing stuff.</div><div><br></div><div>Probably a few others, but those have been on my mind this week.</div><div><br><div>
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div><div>Jim Tyrrell</div><div>Senior JBoss Solutions Architect</div><div><br></div><div>Did you see RHT on CNBC's Mad Money?</div><div><a href="http://www.cnbc.com/id/39401056">http://www.cnbc.com/id/39401056</a></div></div><div><br></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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<br><div><div>On Apr 26, 2011, at 8:46 AM, Andrig Miller wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><br><br><hr id="zwchr"><blockquote mce_style="border-left:2px solid #1010ff;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;" style="border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; "><b>From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"Jim Tyrrell" <<a href="mailto:jtyrrell@redhat.com">jtyrrell@redhat.com</a>><br><b>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"<a href="mailto:jboss-as7-dev@lists.jboss.org">jboss-as7-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Development" <<a href="mailto:jboss-as7-dev@lists.jboss.org">jboss-as7-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>><br><b>Sent:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tuesday, April 26, 2011 7:56:11 AM<br><b>Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [jboss-as7-dev] Changes to .jsp in an exploded deployment no longer picked up?<br><br>My two cents,<div><br></div><div>As we do today, I am thinking you need to have configs out of the box that can be started.</div><div><br></div><div>Production</div><div>Development</div><div><br></div><div>Maybe even JMS</div><div>or WS</div><div>or....</div><div><br></div><div id="mce_9">I think prepackaged tested configs are a good idea as one size will not fit all. We have done this for a long time and am wondering out loud why that notion would be removed?</div></blockquote>There is a requirement in the PRD to have a development configuration and a production configuration, but that is specific to EAP. Traditionally, we have made the AS distribution more "development" focused out-of-the-box.<br><br>I'm not sure, in this specific case what is the best option, but EAP will have a production and development configuration (perhaps a script that sets things up for either using the management API).<br><br>Andy<br><blockquote mce_style="border-left:2px solid #1010ff;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;" style="border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; "><div></div><div><br><div><span class="Apple-style-span" mce_style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; " style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div><div>Jim Tyrrell</div><div>Senior JBoss Solutions Architect</div><div><br></div><div>Did you see RHT on CNBC's Mad Money?</div><div><a href="http://www.cnbc.com/id/39401056" mce_href="http://www.cnbc.com/id/39401056" target="_blank">http://www.cnbc.com/id/39401056</a><br mce_bogus="1"></div></div><div><br></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br><div><div>On Apr 26, 2011, at 7:39 AM,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ssilvert@redhat.com" mce_href="mailto:ssilvert@redhat.com" target="_blank">ssilvert@redhat.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote><div>Quoting Jaikiran Pai <<a href="mailto:jpai@redhat.com" mce_href="mailto:jpai@redhat.com" target="_blank">jpai@redhat.com</a>>:<br><br><blockquote>Thinking a bit more about this, I don't see any use of supporting<br></blockquote><blockquote>exploded deployments (out of the box) if we don't support dynamic<br></blockquote><blockquote>changes to .jsps (out of the box). What else can be changed dynamically<br></blockquote><blockquote>in an exploded deployment?<br></blockquote><br>xhtml (Facelets) pages can behave the same as JSP's as long as you are <br>in development mode.<br><br><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote>-Jaikiran<br></blockquote><blockquote>On Tuesday 26 April 2011 04:52 PM, Remy Maucherat wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 16:40 +0530, Jaikiran Pai wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>The better default will now be used: development will remain as "false".<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>IMO, before going to production with the server, any developer/team<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>would go through a development phase in which he would definitely like<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>this feature. So having this turned on by default (atleast in standalone<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>mode), IMO, makes sense.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>P.S: I created<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-659" mce_href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-659" target="_blank">https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-659</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and was about to<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>send out a pull request with a patch, before I saw this reply. If<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>there's any objection to this change, then I'll wait for a resolution on<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>this discussion.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>I have rejected the jira.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote>_______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote>jboss-as7-dev mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote><a href="mailto:jboss-as7-dev@lists.jboss.org" mce_href="mailto:jboss-as7-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">jboss-as7-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br></blockquote><blockquote><a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-as7-dev" mce_href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-as7-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-as7-dev</a><br></blockquote><blockquote><br></blockquote><br><br><br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>jboss-as7-dev mailing list<br><a href="mailto:jboss-as7-dev@lists.jboss.org" mce_href="mailto:jboss-as7-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">jboss-as7-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-as7-dev">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-as7-dev</a><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>jboss-as7-dev mailing list<br><a href="mailto:jboss-as7-dev@lists.jboss.org">jboss-as7-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-as7-dev">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-as7-dev</a><br></blockquote><br></div></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>