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The eyes that we are getting on the betas - are they purely random
developers or do we have any customers with their developers looking
at it and how it affects their enterprise?<br>
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I know <!-- name was commented out --> has been looking at AS7 from a deployment
perspective and they really dig that, but I haven't heard much from
their developers regarding AS7. Do we have any customers helping
drive AS7 and what are they saying? If that is out in the community
forums, my apologies for not seeing it.<br>
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On 04/26/2011 09:56 AM, Andrig Miller wrote:
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<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:53:33 AM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [jboss-as7-dev] Changes to .jsp in an
exploded deployment no longer picked up?<br>
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Andy,
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<div id="mce_10">So if AS 7 is more development focused, I
agree it can/should be, can any and all decisions
made/discussed/etc on this list, make that experience the
best it can be.</div>
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Yes, I would say so.<br>
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<div>Worrisome threads in the last week:</div>
<div id="mce_11">Should a welcome page exist</div>
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Being taken care of though, right.<br>
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deployed</div>
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Looks like David Lloyd has this in the right track.<br>
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<div id="mce_13">How should lifecyles of datasource
deployments be "configured/monitored/changed"</div>
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That discussion looks like it is also headed in the right
direction.<br>
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<div id="mce_14">On a side vein I still worry about adoption
and the learning curve of all of this new amazing stuff.</div>
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I think we all do, and I think one of the things that we need to
do is all of us get the message out there for people to
download, and test out Beta 3 and 4, and see how many eyes we
can get on it.<br>
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<div>Probably a few others, but those have been on my mind
this week.</div>
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<div>On Apr 26, 2011, at 8:46 AM, Andrig Miller wrote:</div>
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<b>Sent:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tuesday,
April 26, 2011 7:56:11 AM<br>
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[jboss-as7-dev] Changes to .jsp in an exploded
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My two cents,
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<div>As we do today, I am thinking you need to
have configs out of the box that can be
started.</div>
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<div>Production</div>
<div>Development</div>
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<div>Maybe even JMS</div>
<div>or WS</div>
<div>or....</div>
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<div id="mce_9">I think prepackaged tested
configs are a good idea as one size will not
fit all. We have done this for a long time
and am wondering out loud why that notion
would be removed?</div>
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There is a requirement in the PRD to have a
development configuration and a production
configuration, but that is specific to EAP.
Traditionally, we have made the AS distribution
more "development" focused out-of-the-box.<br>
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I'm not sure, in this specific case what is the
best option, but EAP will have a production and
development configuration (perhaps a script that
sets things up for either using the management
API).<br>
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<blockquote>Thinking a bit more about
this, I don't see any use of
supporting<br>
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<blockquote>exploded deployments (out of
the box) if we don't support dynamic<br>
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<blockquote>changes to .jsps (out of the
box). What else can be changed
dynamically<br>
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<blockquote>in an exploded deployment?<br>
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xhtml (Facelets) pages can behave the
same as JSP's as long as you are <br>
in development mode.<br>
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<blockquote>-Jaikiran<br>
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<blockquote>On Tuesday 26 April 2011
04:52 PM, Remy Maucherat wrote:<br>
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16:40 +0530, Jaikiran Pai wrote:<br>
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<blockquote>The better default
will now be used: development
will remain as "false".<br>
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<blockquote>IMO, before going to
production with the server, any
developer/team<br>
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development phase in which he
would definitely like<br>
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<blockquote>this feature. So having
this turned on by default (atleast
in standalone<br>
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<blockquote>P.S: I created<span
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was about to<br>
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with a patch, before I saw this
reply. If<br>
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this change, then I'll wait for a
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